From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x832.google.com (mail-qt1-x832.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::832]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3E1F3B29E; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 23:26:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt1-x832.google.com with SMTP id u7so3551726qtg.9; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 20:26:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9ySdEuFbRBFwMXc5BivpVwcOAS3dUlDICmQTQ+lKkrQ=; b=qiqZDomW45CCFIkYvObJHXDhIm0EtnGb9nyVTo+0tb/PkqWi2QffGqKSzrC35+q5qc YugViGFL4Ow5/4YA5A1JJve8+h/YYBOIhGfJaWdivVtueFQ/3OIGat723Ubjh07tZOXn bs5a3xxE2Mc99D/F/JusfvoRV8+eZYFRvVYvJepOOFpD/Ob2cUdDdC/N4sMCeebuF5l6 /JKmIV3nCZd/9frKw9u/J7vhhENFcA9gvZC3MXDP9Up8j57hC3lP6GtqgaFbCo2ByXQ6 YsbE1u9mq/JYy98rLU1ZLNLNpZQH1vqr6tMXimwWsEe1/djJjXMbHp0LsjO092Y4hQqU PLYw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9ySdEuFbRBFwMXc5BivpVwcOAS3dUlDICmQTQ+lKkrQ=; b=O3KUeeH3UWDbjISqYthbXcUMaw89gDf8FDf89mEGon3EjEbSJknEIv2nku38H+wxEa 9NvVzh5O6eQCrgu0MBb9e6i4HOoJPseCRJPm25iw7UcT2AH8YCWwLtppM+jftLHWPark gbk/vj1623cZtZupRZng9jEs2MnTGW+faIOtfqhMNj7V5dcecj0oM3FlxkYGsIvw/yM7 3Wx2t1id4uiWaBT7CGAW8mqXtNAYxiKXZ5oXBrNqTA1oglkIEkFLZm9/9lWkABGH9ykB EYybZergIFZ7n+ne3RDjfTgPQTJMI6uJYFqCNvvimNvxo/w+IFTa/qlXvbbmUXp6kiRS qsuA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV0ALpZVbphzS4k7krAbOawkMaa+qwibMWbyiUuihd6NiiR9Rib hXfN0/Zc7iWOcmhKEgunWihbswduBF4ssRuFI+Q= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw3ETiS3qwtYzc/8LSiJh3/0FYP8xzCaxM8Bb//s6V+lguSVBUBL+0NhlVpOxz+hHxiZXbmNIFAb1x+jV9Eo8A= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:1c7c:: with SMTP id j57mr11605188qtk.376.1552274776128; Sun, 10 Mar 2019 20:26:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <550C0248-1704-49DA-ABDC-49A91E0AC6F3@akamai.com> <2252.1552274584@localhost> In-Reply-To: <2252.1552274584@localhost> From: Dave Taht Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 20:26:04 -0700 Message-ID: To: Michael Richardson Cc: "Holland, Jake" , bloat , Cake List , "codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , "ecn-sane@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Cake] [Bloat] The "Some Congestion Experienced" ECN codepoint - a new internet draft - X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 03:26:16 -0000 On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 8:23 PM Michael Richardson wrote= : > > > Holland, Jake wrote: > > 1. > > "Some" in "Some Congestion Experienced" is maybe misleading, and > > arguably has the same meaning as "Congestion Experienced". > > > I was thinking maybe "Pre-Congestion Experienced" or "Queue > > Utilization Observed", or if you want to preserve "SCE" and the > > I'll combine them: > "Some Congestion Observed" Hah. Ironically as hell, I spent the first 1/4th of my career working for SCO. > > (I image a packet rubber-necking to observe some collision on the exressw= ay) > > -- > ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh netwo= rks [ > ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | IoT architec= t [ > ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails= [ > --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-205-9740