Cake - FQ_codel the next generation
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net>
Cc: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] FreeNet backhaul
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 15:58:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw4a5OTKnO_yqvZ=cV1Zqv2Q1Jt8YFPfWE9CqEtUWFwcVw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2CB335A2-E18F-430F-9331-9AD9B3238D84@heistp.net>

Heh. esfq was "best in class" for a very, very long time.

I have years of mrtg data on my network that I haven't looked at in years....
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 3:37 PM Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net> wrote:
>
> I met with the FreeNet Liberec admins earlier this week, and am just starting to get the first IRTT / SmokePing probe data from a few backhaul routers. I’ll see if I can get snapshots of the SmokePing pages public somewhere, but for now...
>
> https://www.heistp.net/downloads/jerab_ping.pdf
>
> https://www.heistp.net/downloads/jerab_irtt.pdf
>
> On this router, there are various “events” that occur with RTT spikes, and in general, UDP RTT maximums appear quite a bit higher than those for ICMP. I speculate that at least some of these events may be bloat, but can’t be sure yet.
>
> This router is an old ALIX with kernel 2.6.26, but on the other hand it does have hfsc + esfq (a variant of sfq with host fairness) deployed, so if it’s actually controlling the queue, one might suspect that sfq it could control inter-flow latency at least somewhat.
>
> I feel the need for better data than this, but this is at least a first look for me at bloat in an ISP’s backhaul. The “elaborate” plan is to gather data for a while, deploy sqm in a couple places (I hope for cake, but the kernel will need to be upgraded on this one), and see what happens… :)
>
> Pete
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cake mailing list
> Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake



-- 

Dave Täht
CEO, TekLibre, LLC
http://www.teklibre.com
Tel: 1-669-226-2619

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-06 22:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-06 22:37 Pete Heist
2018-09-06 22:58 ` Dave Taht [this message]
2018-09-06 23:03 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-09-07 10:00   ` Pete Heist
2018-09-07 13:59     ` Dave Taht
2018-09-07 16:02       ` Pete Heist

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://lists.bufferbloat.net/postorius/lists/cake.lists.bufferbloat.net/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to='CAA93jw4a5OTKnO_yqvZ=cV1Zqv2Q1Jt8YFPfWE9CqEtUWFwcVw@mail.gmail.com' \
    --to=dave.taht@gmail.com \
    --cc=cake@lists.bufferbloat.net \
    --cc=pete@heistp.net \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox