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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Jordan Szuch <jordan@inacomptc.com>
Cc: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] [Bloat] some mikrotik comments
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 14:37:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw4gfXZC6KGA36egFzzW7HW=Cf9FBGFt8v7XmDJWeTUe2w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <006f01d7be16$e21a95b0$a64fc110$@inacomptc.com>

Encouraged!

On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 1:39 PM Jordan Szuch <jordan@inacomptc.com> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, didn't have time to setup my own server but here are the results for Flent on against the public east/west bufferbloat servers: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ap4u4Rte63FqjqQ8zMdwTTBmcd_mnw?e=675gyh
>
> That's a shared OneDrive folder with results from running with CAKE and then without any kind of shaping. Here's some additional information as well.
>
> This was the command that was run: flent rrul -p all_scaled -l 60 -H netperf.bufferbloat.net

-t the_test_parameters # helps to name the plots, so you can compare them later
--step-size=.05 # sample at a higher frequency

> Internet is a Spectrum cable connection. Bandwidth is supposed to be 100Mbps down and 10Mbps up. I have it limited to 90Mbps and 9Mbps for shaping. Here's also the CAKE settings I have configured on the router:

Is it not a docsis 3.1 modem? Because your unshaped result was *miserable*.

>
> Upload Queue
> name="cake-nat-doc-up" kind=cake cake-bandwidth=0bps cake-overhead=18
>      cake-mpu=64 cake-overhead-scheme=docsis cake-rtt=100ms
>      cake-diffserv=diffserv4 cake-flowmode=triple-isolate cake-nat=yes
>      cake-wash=no cake-ack-filter=filter

0bps ?

with docsis framing you should be able to just say 10mbit, rather than 9.

cake-ack-filter=filter ? does it have filter-aggressive?

>
> Download Queue
> name="cake-nat-doc" kind=cake cake-bandwidth=0bps cake-overhead=18
>      cake-mpu=64 cake-overhead-scheme=docsis cake-rtt=100ms
>      cake-diffserv=diffserv4 cake-flowmode=triple-isolate cake-nat=yes
>      cake-wash=no cake-ack-filter=none

It looks like your provisioned rate was closer to 120. Try 110.

> Hopefully those settings are configured somewhat decently. Hope that helps!
>
> Jordan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 1:51 PM
> To: Jordan Szuch <jordan@inacomptc.com>
> Cc: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>; bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Subject: Re: [Bloat] some mikrotik comments
>
> goferit! We have flent servers throughout the world, mostly undocumented. I tend to prefer folk setup their own, less noise in the data....
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 9:18 AM Jordan Szuch <jordan@inacomptc.com> wrote:
> >
> > OK, I'll give it a shot! Please forgive me here as I haven't really run flent before. Would running something like what's listed in the Quick Start here (https://flent.org/intro.html#quick-start) be sufficient?
> >
> > Jordan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 12:11 PM
> > To: Jordan Szuch <jordan@inacomptc.com>
> > Cc: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>; bloat
> > <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Bloat] some mikrotik comments
> >
> > It's flent.org rrul test output that I love.
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 9:05 AM Jordan Szuch via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Dave,
> > >
> > > Interesting that you should send this out; I recently picked up a unit (this one specifically: https://mikrotik.com/product/hap_ac2) to do some testing of the v7 firmware. Nothing super high end but enough to do a little testing. I have CAKE set to do some shaping and so far seems functional. At least the bufferbloat speed tests from DSLReports and WaveForm indicate some shaping is happening. If you'd like any information about the unit, the v7 firmware, or particular tests run then I'd be happy to help out.
> > >
> > > Jordan
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bloat <bloat-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> On Behalf Of Dave
> > > Taht
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 11:39 AM
> > > To: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>; bloat
> > > <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> > > Subject: [Bloat] some mikrotik comments
> > >
> > > the v7 beta gained doc and more os support for fq_codel and cake
> > > recently
> > >
> > > https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=885000#p885000
> > >
> > > anyone out there actively testing mikrotik?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Fixing Starlink's Latencies:
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9gLo6Xrwgw
> > >
> > > Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Bloat mailing list
> > > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Fixing Starlink's Latencies:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9gLo6Xrwgw
> >
> > Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
> >
>
>
> --
> Fixing Starlink's Latencies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9gLo6Xrwgw
>
> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
>


-- 
Fixing Starlink's Latencies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9gLo6Xrwgw

Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-10 21:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-10 15:39 [Cake] " Dave Taht
2021-10-10 16:05 ` [Cake] [Bloat] " Jordan Szuch
2021-10-10 16:11   ` Dave Taht
2021-10-10 16:18     ` Jordan Szuch
2021-10-10 17:51       ` Dave Taht
2021-10-10 20:39         ` Jordan Szuch
2021-10-10 21:37           ` Dave Taht [this message]
2021-10-10 23:01             ` Jordan Szuch
2021-10-11  0:40               ` Dave Taht
2021-10-11  1:05       ` Dave Taht
2021-10-11  1:18         ` Jordan Szuch
2021-10-11  1:23           ` Dave Taht
2021-10-11  1:31             ` Dave Taht
2021-10-11  1:37             ` Dave Taht
2021-10-11  1:41               ` Jordan Szuch
2021-10-11  1:54               ` Jordan Szuch
2021-10-11  2:05                 ` Dave Taht
2021-10-11  2:30                 ` Dave Taht
2021-10-11  2:41                   ` Jordan Szuch
2021-10-11  2:59                     ` Dave Taht
2021-10-11  3:24                       ` Jordan Szuch
2021-10-14 17:08   ` Dave Taht
2021-10-14 18:27     ` Jordan Szuch
2021-10-14 22:18       ` Thomas Croghan
2021-10-14 22:33         ` Dave Taht
2021-10-15 15:17           ` Thomas Croghan
2021-10-27 21:56             ` Dave Taht
2021-10-11  0:53 ` [Cake] " Thomas Croghan
2021-10-11  1:16   ` Dave Taht

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