From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net>, Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] lanman2018 cake talk ideas
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 06:13:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw50MycJnoWJOvOfJABj7tr_Y2yQUFdqV_nKbwS=f8GdrQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r2ktn7kn.fsf@toke.dk>
OK, a version I can live with for today is up at the same url. I still
have an hour to fiddle.
PS I love youse guys.
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 3:52 AM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
> Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net> writes:
>
>>> On Jun 26, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I got about, I don't know, 5? problematic slides, and it needs to get
>>> to 20 by 9AM EDT, it's 3AM and I'm gonna catch some zs.
>>>
>>> http://www.taht.net/~d/cake/sch_cake_ieee_lanman2018.odp
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 10:14 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I have to get on the plane tomorrow night at midnight and I've tried
>>>> to capture some of your comments and ideas in:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.taht.net/~d/cake/sch_cake_ieee_lanman2018.odp
>>>>
>>>> It's in its usual mess at this point - usually I don't share stuff
>>>> this raw! but I'm totally open to text suggestions, graphics, etc,
>>>> etc, etc - there's the plane flight and more than a few days left to
>>>> pound it into shape and after I get a feel for the conference monday
>>>> will end up doing another pass before the talk tuesday. What to say on
>>>> each slide is helpful (jokes appreciated, a lot of what I've had to
>>>> say so far is dripping with sarcasm which I know doesn't translate
>>>> well).
>>>>
>>>> I think focusing on per host fq is probably the strongest point to
>>>> develop and I kind of wanted a diagram of a whole bunch
>>>> of different host types and graphically illustrating what happens vs
>>>> fifo, fq_codel, and cake.
>>
>> Sorry I’ve been heads down testing / writing. It looks like your challenge is 20 minutes for 3+ decades of info. Quick ideas to compress it:
>>
>> 1) Merge and reduce slides 9 (The case for per-host fair queueing) and 11 (The need for host and flow fairness)
>> 2) Slide 14 (comparable to htb+fq_codel) could probably go? doesn’t sell compared to other stuff
>> 3) Merge and reduce slides 17 (Deficit based shaping) and 18 (Achieving near perfect utilization) and reduce content
>> 4) During the presentation, go through slides 1-8 quickly, but without
>> dismissiveness
>
> +1 to all of these. Possibly also nuke slide 13 (or move it to 'extra
> slides'). The setup commands are not going to mean anything to those in
> the audience (I'm guessing that would be most of the audience) who are
> not familiar with Linux/TC.
>
>> On the plus side, I think it’s good you re-focused this on fair
>> queueing for this audience. Nice work.
>
> Yeah, I agree. Very nice :)
>
> -Toke
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-26 13:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-22 7:45 Felix Resch
2018-06-22 8:05 ` Pete Heist
2018-06-23 5:14 ` Dave Taht
2018-06-23 5:35 ` Dave Taht
2018-06-23 7:12 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-06-26 6:58 ` Dave Taht
2018-06-26 8:33 ` Pete Heist
2018-06-26 10:52 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-06-26 13:13 ` Dave Taht [this message]
2018-06-26 8:34 ` Sebastian Moeller
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-06-18 17:44 Dave Taht
2018-06-18 17:50 ` Loganaden Velvindron
2018-06-18 17:52 ` Loganaden Velvindron
2018-06-20 8:25 ` Luca Muscariello
2018-06-20 15:45 ` Pete Heist
2018-06-21 3:43 ` Dave Taht
2018-06-21 7:04 ` Pete Heist
2018-06-21 7:55 ` Jonas Mårtensson
2018-06-21 9:42 ` Sebastian Moeller
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