From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk0-x22d.google.com (mail-qk0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4617621F221 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 15:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qku63 with SMTP id 63so145577630qku.3 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 15:22:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=n1OKBa02zkMrCpS+oUAaaGx93GY3TazQTDTV2Wzc/pA=; b=Zx8M+1hpO+JBEpAvIQu32RjLyYYRi5tJplcCEj1Lp1ABHENbeGxTaC2v5l1Oj0tHso Ba2SpbKhMm22jxFpTDJNWFIYSDFxV65OUdRPePjfGY4/RfmmEZJVBygGn8cQTL0dwhCa a9B9bwGEMj08MN4cHuWQLf1j0LMIC8iTEzzqKqoOLvgFEwo9z6BSMrS2K1XMJQGMJlWU N22zKwMl3sIE+jAyoeHuQP61mmR/RHkoztZm2ZV92b/bVjiIlmaSbpb7jLRAuzEJvt8P P2hKptachLNNvO833KsRtgKWe2m1R++mGTwee4DIjZNlw2l7NX+FlWD6AJwbTdvpFoKg KvGg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.243.229 with SMTP id xb5mr9969832obc.63.1428877376245; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 15:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.51.66 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 15:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 15:22:56 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Cake] externally buildable kernel module X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 22:23:26 -0000 Building cake out of tree would aid in recruiting more folk to "just try this" on their existing debian, fedora, arch, etc systems. Distributing an entire kernel is not the best of ideas, full of risk and a PITA to do in general. it is also the best way to get this into openwrt at present. We would still need to distribute a special iproute-tests package and git tree to drive it, but (having crashed too many of my own kernels, had my audio or video drivers fail, etc) am reluctant to hand end users kernels that we have compiled ourselves. Secondly this would give us a better way to do backports (if needed). There are many examples out there on how to build out of tree kernel modules. Certainly it is easier for us to track net-next, but testers, not so much. - Dave T=C3=A4ht Open Networking needs **Open Source Hardware** https://plus.google.com/u/0/+EricRaymond/posts/JqxCe2pFr67