From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt0-x232.google.com (mail-qt0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8506A3BA8E for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:23:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt0-x232.google.com with SMTP id p44so19462153qtj.6 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:23:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BOS+giYHHJL7IiKY5zbPBKqxQ7s816V0qsrH5kN1mN4=; b=KGUg4BPOljY7SWTo7PKe0Lqj+SdzbVrwOeLH1OEjM0QkxvCeglww8CmGlcUjQJa4rg V4SOrMvmawnmqp6wVGLDyZbS243ZNqA9Ot7pAqnQppJUm9WU7SCD3hdQhu88RqTJAd6V x1ZM7fEpS6E0obegg+jjL/ULJoVTX5ABsAsmYXqI2hLU6GuVBJryAVaN4QlAhkuHgtlh pjC85CurYpK21UvPPd07U1jnIA8A80FfdJm2mcEXvqQ2K8YjYqOIWtz0huBwQCR/BZVZ lPSKCkte+Wn8atQPNQJprd4MujX/J8GZEw1fIdPwcMiuXzt3e+kGhbAJBiY2oN9KlseP F9Ig== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BOS+giYHHJL7IiKY5zbPBKqxQ7s816V0qsrH5kN1mN4=; b=jkxTetZLw0ZmeVcUF7X0PwY/MqzBuPYlMpHMbRWP0TU7A/nNv+xKPX3/jWELbwRPwc rMDsbu6TLP/uv/KgagiHhvKZ8XnzBgICSskyLiRxgfjYL+L72V8qkCcu2GJSHOX90mlE /q0zcY0LYh91NJe9NCMOnbQXghnE3ypA+pd5NnOGWC1DbIkeLfBI+Qot0kSwb8mLLCHn v0J9vEEJPZ8jqGkktajQbRr///FjF3Qt9aEZa7QBYlTUWM+FUgjuKkfUHM1Ft+l/wDlH k148cEcmqD6c8SmCPc6Mlfm+p/moHCI+QkL5nIA3WvcM6hFETj+rJ/jJe+twhkiFqZ0d zi+g== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX7Ukkyo5XJ13+sex2k9u3bk+bySN2mMSHCEAMopB1+RabiwNeG0 qQ+dc7p+3D0Zcqdzk7hpQ3ewrkaASJEuC2avtIM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMbRAjMLOHhprIkkTQravWsuKz/cdjWnk0MVJAojbpaEhOSoB40XQSvCOV6MH1PutGgle9iD2UULY+hvQ3Bx9Ds= X-Received: by 10.200.46.50 with SMTP id r47mr12360626qta.314.1510698217086; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:23:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.193.93 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:23:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <87po92aku1.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <87efph4q0y.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <87vaihkgr9.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <87r2t08vtz.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> From: Dave Taht Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:23:36 -0800 Message-ID: To: "G. Amanakis" Cc: Dave Taht , George Amanakis via Cake Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Cake] total download rate with many flows X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 22:23:37 -0000 because cobalt is more aggressive than codel. I've never believed in it. I'm sitting here trying to figure out how to get good ole regular cake to compile again. I just merged the new ack stuff into the codel branch. On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 2:13 PM, G. Amanakis via Cake wrote: > _______________________________________________ > Cake mailing list > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "G. Amanakis" > To: Dave Taht , George Amanakis via Cake > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:13:16 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Cake] total download rate with many flows > Yes, it is. I am building from the cobalt branch. What makes you believe = otherwise? Would you expect a different behaviour? > > On November 14, 2017 3:11:04 PM EST, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> George Amanakis via Cake writes: >> >>> From: George Amanakis >>> Subject: Re: [Cake] total download rate with many flows >>> To: David Lang >>> Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 21:49:53 -0500 (17 hours, 20 minutes, 42 second= s ago) >>> >>> Dear David, >>> >>> I agree. My point is that currently ingress mode seems to be dropping = more >>> packets than necessary to keep senders from bottlenecking the connecti= on (when >>> there is a large number of concurrent flows, >8). And right now, ingre= ss mode is >>> the only mode that achieves this in situations such as Windows updates= . >> >> >> Is cobalt enabled in your build? > > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-669-226-2619