From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Tristan Seligmann <mithrandi@mithrandi.net>
Cc: "Jonas Mårtensson" <martensson.jonas@gmail.com>,
"Cake List" <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] inbound cake or fq_codel shaping fails on cable on netflix reno
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 13:47:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw5G7mG_uzUSWRK+Es-ANBvB0wLAWAy220iA=CGPoZYp1Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMcKhMTPSnL_M6q5VQk=wvpCr-KxNiLco14s8zoHDf9LR3L2AQ@mail.gmail.com>
I wish vumatel the best of luck. One thing that still will help the
fiber networks is applying fq_* derived algoritms.
This is cake vs sonic (gpon) fiber in san francisco. They have a
totally reasonable (60ms) buffer in their ONT, cut to... well... the
result I get is even less latency loaded than unloaded:
http://www.taht.net/~d/sonic_106_cake_vs_default.png
In my mind fq techniques merely on the up on fiber onts will make a
huge difference in perceived QoE, and the marketing department can
keep claiming it's fiber bandwidth that counts to consumers.
FIOS uses actiontec. I haven't picked apart what kernels the use in a
couple years.
http://opensource.actiontec.com/
(hey verizon FIOS? gfiber? you listening?)
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 9:45 AM Tristan Seligmann
<mithrandi@mithrandi.net> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 at 17:26 Jonas Mårtensson <martensson.jonas@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:56 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Great info, thx. Using this opportunity to rant about city-wid
>>> networks, I'd have done something so different
>>> than what the governments and ISPs have inflicted on us, substituting
>>> redundancy for reliability.
>>>
>>> I'd have used bog standard ethernet over fiber instead of gpon.
>>
>>
>> Well, in Sweden 100% of ftth connections are standard active ethernet instead of gpon (and more than 60% of fixed connections are ftth).
>
>
> Here in South Africa, we have one provider (Vumatel) deploying AE, and everyone else doing GPON :/
--
Dave Täht
CEO, TekLibre, LLC
http://www.teklibre.com
Tel: 1-669-226-2619
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-23 20:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-21 16:09 Dave Taht
2018-07-21 17:20 ` Georgios Amanakis
2018-07-21 17:23 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-07-21 17:44 ` Georgios Amanakis
2018-07-21 17:47 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-21 18:17 ` Georgios Amanakis
2018-07-21 18:20 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-21 18:23 ` Georgios Amanakis
2018-07-21 20:01 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-21 20:24 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-07-21 20:36 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-21 21:17 ` Arie
2018-07-21 21:37 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-21 22:13 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-21 22:28 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-21 23:10 ` Arie
2018-07-23 6:50 ` Ryan Mounce
2018-07-23 14:56 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-23 15:26 ` Jonas Mårtensson
2018-07-23 15:43 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-23 16:45 ` Tristan Seligmann
2018-07-23 20:47 ` Dave Taht [this message]
2018-07-23 15:49 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-07-23 17:32 ` Benjamin Cronce
[not found] ` <CAA93jw7hPG5oGyKaCL69p9Sbf7BckAZzh-p8C0jU+QXF9she1A@mail.gmail.com>
2018-07-24 1:31 ` Ryan Mounce
2018-07-24 2:17 ` Ryan Mounce
2018-07-24 2:29 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-24 2:50 ` Ryan Mounce
2018-07-24 8:15 ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-07-24 13:51 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-24 14:54 ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-07-24 15:19 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-24 18:05 ` Tristan Seligmann
2018-07-24 18:08 ` Tristan Seligmann
2018-07-24 17:58 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-07-24 19:38 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-24 20:44 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-24 22:23 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-24 22:29 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-24 22:43 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-21 17:24 ` Arie
2018-07-21 17:27 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-21 17:36 ` Arie
2018-07-21 17:45 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-21 17:55 ` Arie
2018-07-21 18:02 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-21 18:23 ` Arie
[not found] ` <CAA93jw64CbM9DmtHM2aRbFBb3TUepSAK2JRmcDZHZ6kUkJB1Jg@mail.gmail.com>
2018-07-21 18:38 ` [Cake] policers, finally Dave Taht
2018-07-21 18:45 ` Dave Taht
2018-08-04 7:53 ` [Cake] Policers Dave Taht
2018-07-21 17:28 ` [Cake] inbound cake or fq_codel shaping fails on cable on netflix reno Georgios Amanakis
2018-07-21 17:42 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-21 19:57 ` [Cake] [Cerowrt-devel] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-24 2:36 ` [Cake] " Dave Taht
2018-07-24 4:17 ` Georgios Amanakis
2018-07-22 9:57 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-22 10:29 ` Sebastian Moeller
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