From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk0-x233.google.com (mail-qk0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF8BC3BA8E for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2018 15:35:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qk0-x233.google.com with SMTP id 126-v6so5458961qke.5 for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2018 12:35:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=mmYwlDfwJJDdIF7vN143s+JIFenkHgT1OJBkpQ+fjEk=; b=e4hPKnCLqw6B+Gabmb4x2905/UlYzQbHNf/PD3cHvasnJWD883Blqr0OR60I0Oi8Il 4iLIld1EVcHpa0jpVh2tmzIdbykUueCD4AA8/XXJksAQr5usG+IGBQbyRQ6GP6B+GvnG 9pdTjlAv+FBNi44FAF5zF8FkRJoYPI9HdL3UhEPhyZbNH8yV150pT1ad5DFB+d6Ee0nV lJ9Fcr1dRrEsigyy+9tUrGODEtbUCadlXU/1d02j5MhZzf7GOA1OpJ5PXDmdjYOoZxdf a6pwiNDUETLQoN+HsCIROUAhK9/kM5ES3z8ewJyshsqiIt6qclvCEwgoaKB1vsBbZcIv FhJw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=mmYwlDfwJJDdIF7vN143s+JIFenkHgT1OJBkpQ+fjEk=; b=GxGh6jssNtyQI6tLiU39LMQhddKqNS2riSLN+J2RL97Q9WqA2aL0AM0390A63nQTeA fhwApGcSgAVRrH1HyGbhxIib1EWY0Q3iiE8gVSFf5QoMmNXwhxRK05Wye3sk0iqt0h/l 88VOsqb43HNHFfKRFxQLogxPfWRCSUS1rt1FA7C8CgshVqgbgOFtehsLZDfgYEfLewTw +Ywvel0ufzNKfj9E37UcKBY29cIxWhUojyWX4JHEcNc0UvJUdb1RVbjpVnIs2VQ7X4y7 54W5E0MA0iDaz1O+V+Deu7HMZR8IfyS8ubfAMU/ec93pGU9rn67/8kLe/U8r4xhROnz2 Zqxg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlFljm2HDFQo5cCehDJvqVcmm+6ptChJCEgO1Gc0VTaFaUhIRYML 8+w2OSF+STvgXBufE8ehmbH9n+YT+KeBjKWFlfwGPw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpe9Q6ATYInfk52krFHLaouEh4Xfm1qTYxUX5ie9vARH0fuesSZdZjsNTOiHq5ZlPA6KPiD0Emhn5NyrJw1c0Xs= X-Received: by 2002:a37:c40d:: with SMTP id d13-v6mr10380227qki.190.1532806500994; Sat, 28 Jul 2018 12:35:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1357421162.31089.1531812291583@webmail.strato.de> <1c323544b3076c0ab31b887d6113f25f572e41ae.camel@coverfire.com> <87woth28rw.fsf@toke.dk> <87tvol1z6h.fsf@toke.dk> <87wotfzql8.fsf@toke.dk> <5F8BDB55-E8D2-4815-89C3-4FA1B11988B6@toke.dk> In-Reply-To: <5F8BDB55-E8D2-4815-89C3-4FA1B11988B6@toke.dk> From: Dave Taht Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2018 12:35:53 -0700 Message-ID: To: Cake List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: [Cake] 1000s of users X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2018 19:35:02 -0000 If I get time, what I might try is: one veth per user with cake bandwidth whatever routing (no bpf) the ip address subset to each veth 10x1 oversubscription bridging all those veths together into one interface and... just applying pie or codel to that 'cause there are just too many flows to conceive of fq-ing further here, and each veth has already applied a lot of entropy. I DO have a 10gige device, so a variety of subscribers at 20,40,100mbit could be attempted to fit. Still, 1000 subscribers at 20mbit