From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk0-x233.google.com (mail-qk0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7F073B29E for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 15:32:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qk0-x233.google.com with SMTP id o205so3637934qke.3 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 12:32:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=wVY9I5jMIe8mujN/K9wM7MkGeKKrMjfZM75vEH+DyRA=; b=rA7Gcxmb03YPlTxhY0wjPq2XooSZVdfm+LcDcv9bP6cy3wIhTSOjfQFhFRq9KqT/VG ERazUznTca3dDC4BG8j6M1tNqkq5x3AMU19gsFH8wozQgI4kfmIkgx10+cBXwIPDYDyp 9sDSiYT6dhEFvExsmrTvo9bFOE8PsQrmnGVW6yPvIeZZrC0N3OWjAgeLWSmWl463GQja XDg0JoyuHYNoTGiEJP4AG/qps+DRmck4QrRc//1HnjhDDdbFcjYCniTkMq26/Yj7kS4E ZLPMXVzz7tHoD9k3Cdd8ps/xL70xLQR98CHnQr2zySKbFqBzlumh7UD16v1KPZeWJ7r/ o2lQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=wVY9I5jMIe8mujN/K9wM7MkGeKKrMjfZM75vEH+DyRA=; b=Aq7oInFXif7gvB8YmAIiv6l1lkMQpbhQCVhmlVLMgHEyDELXJkSJoWhXsaFah+3PSi XzbrPmSzBQOMrS9ffFzeAogh2BYvHwH/YGEDyXmW5mv/qsSX5Fzx3b8RtKCz9F3DrpjM GDj6idIHwqOrTF/U/Tr17Xq6FX4GLEVVOuH9r8WOBc1imxV12gz+QV+/hNLfGnHVcsD+ TeJ1UaKap9KZajv2wLDc+ljFSawoSQhDVJ3M/oeDVnxEu+FpbQ8x4nIlqVvIZjAeImm/ o6v6Wjd/+8rtgv6trmJHarKr1jGRhOsVdbpw+lCZNpDhMkcSxyyVquCnVGTALOQi11fQ rIcA== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7GwVCTmr86Lqp5eqVN7OogDAyxptyIkOG01/84PZZTq1nTfQvW8 MQuD+0GAz0z4DvVj828Sv19iKN1pu5/Bo8c5ra0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx48OXgiYzCW7G+tJqUGN2HaDrWWcxK923IDnSM6bFrxHfd7suRNKU2JSqw3ovaAEuNU5U3rYmxmcmpkz23LQD6Q= X-Received: by 10.55.25.134 with SMTP id 6mr6671871qkz.52.1522265531281; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 12:32:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.148.218 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 12:32:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87k1twgpsy.fsf@toke.dk> References: <87k1twgpsy.fsf@toke.dk> From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 12:32:10 -0700 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?B?VG9rZSBIw7hpbGFuZC1Kw7hyZ2Vuc2Vu?= Cc: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant , Cake List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [Cake] bufferbloat still misunderstood & ignored X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 19:32:11 -0000 The two line method is quite common among gamers.