From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oi0-x22d.google.com (mail-oi0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3324A21F698 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 16:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by oiha141 with SMTP id a141so7862oih.0 for ; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:56:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=b2q4XB4HRU66YP1MGzSkMqVPxTVJc9MAJDwVo3HH69c=; b=sfDtl7n8pXff61VnuSThUapvEbKpjHao53WOCt0SvHpQQStHuBxh5DoPP4AX3dUI0T ygJRKSBemw2SYdrcru0NarJoG3cboUHC+iTLrZvV3/2Q0vB3kBtxdbQv0hZZReZD78h2 hCDD5aAyWbWpr+pN/l3Ga1IDttmbsDpmx4JVH4CwJ7/gUaMfBOL5lYKaJQ/+SCmNmOCX 06akUIsJEAbOH5ppWqPgoVnNH0W0FMqp35YI2ZZCBHFuH5KGqnkwP0/V6/Vbes3mIMlN BIDZS6UEhd/m3GuQ3TGXm0K8EQctYvesxj2F90rbKY6IfLL6W4gp4Va+wQdoGdedRJh9 kqxg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.73.199 with SMTP id n7mr5121363oev.39.1433548573095; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.105.129 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 16:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 16:56:13 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Cake] lower bounds for latency X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 23:56:42 -0000 bob's been up to good stuff lately.. http://bobbriscoe.net/projects/latency/sub-mss-w.pdf It was weird, only last night I was thinking upon the real lower bounds on what was needed to keep a flow going in tcp at X,Y,Z rtts (in the context of being dissatisified with the stanford result, and not "quite" in the context of "buffering"), and he nails that in the first paragraph. Have to work through his prescription though.... --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht What will it take to vastly improve wifi for everyone? https://plus.google.com/u/0/explore/makewififast