From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oi0-x233.google.com (mail-oi0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 572F43B2A3 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 13:09:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-oi0-x233.google.com with SMTP id w85so143548113oiw.0 for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 10:09:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JBTRwRBkxa1KVypYJ/qvNbM5O9v5zHOW8azolkcCWK4=; b=lYxEumMRZPGP7i5gpgbnhP5TR3MqDRo0AWVXNIl7co2ph5BLsz01TL97o+oiuATcTC vsu3th1/nCh+bfbE7zDWSDJAOdVIjv37hpdVp8DUh6dOZbT5FkjNcaW04Igpg0PdePM2 fy33GUL3oEzc66qSbEdkKuqSwXfxwobj/Vl2Vax3P1ZcuzvVl/2UgcjpYt9FIJJ3MSsU KG0q2w2F9Hgu5WhxyN/IJGI07FCVxkwOKTzxhCJVDA99ssJ2A+yh8YFbggo4fuh8jFcI 7Y5ppVFVx5+jo8APpWk19Rxja0zvR4mxRRGzModLq+GISQLAapoqIXc/B2iNeKEC/dJi s0jQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JBTRwRBkxa1KVypYJ/qvNbM5O9v5zHOW8azolkcCWK4=; b=kAppaLN3vR98mU0kL5KE7Z5cUMfjxLQBMRQQzKG/1Zs7bsH88PiFps/gCdj9eDKOPB z7BSrVa4aLB8aLhy3wk2YB5qW9VqdSgHp6KNFhpbznl3VMbhRHxoY6wRbadWCUOROpkV KqtjQnfaAaZcMOrB5ynZNvLSm/C7fO/OGIL71gGvl9Cl5+4Ma+05Ffwo+9qNjbuH3nT3 EPUa2ecoWXAXVkwFcIuoLnPjN6iUv00qUHnUDiiJtS1o8NUs/iUQpJBaH5OCrfce7DKc pcAWUcOsrIHTsz+su3PISAJM7fqMXwI7rf2rfZXX5mGUPHJ8BXZoaKL4ZAe/8CsIES37 v4jQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLwmvtRFJmDQY2KzHBAIDs96QrlKgGxEwRqa6B+cMhMDrAAv0AN4kOSt4nENp2TzOuLtz/CbLipG8gZMw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.157.5.106 with SMTP id 97mr4466685otw.127.1460135370782; Fri, 08 Apr 2016 10:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.79.215 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 10:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 10:09:30 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Cake] measuring "active flows" X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 17:09:31 -0000 One of the nifty things about cake is that we are in a position to get more of a grip on "active" flows with lots of contention. I have done a bit of this ad-hoc here and there, with 100s of flows, the number "active" (with a queue) at any given RTT are much less (at least with drop rather than ecn) https://www.researchgate.net/profile/S_Oueslati/publication/234778751_Evalu= ating_the_number_of_active_flows_in_a_scheduler_realizing_fair_statistical_= bandwidth_sharing/links/5451fab10cf2bf864cbab666.pdf (If you can't tell, I'm gradually trying to collect papers that were influential on me) Pretty much everything else luca and jim roberts has written is pure gold, = too. https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=3DQ36qUAsAAAAJ&hl=3Den -- Dave T=C3=A4ht Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software! https://www.gofundme.com/savewifi