From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oi0-x234.google.com (mail-oi0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A857C3B2BC; Wed, 6 Apr 2016 14:11:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-oi0-x234.google.com with SMTP id w85so68776916oiw.0; Wed, 06 Apr 2016 11:11:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=zBNC+hKhhDncv2KhdlxFtu1hhkOiotRL2aKZqhwJdTw=; b=JqoYTTVM6gRfUHyr3DifdkClD8AjNumvQYJAvnxapVU919kBm7DXvMViXuuF49gvs8 xSYsbUYK1n3MM5sqNtYTBAW3oKB5CU/nRjVJy1yCcjBBBkEB30AaPQMRSByPmL1mvTPL 4xHXal2XqgaUP7KLJIo7FNpOQrpUUFnv4rl8G6TBOdfvO9sa2RwtqSX9SiTOVgoOIx8c gy5dV3gsB2ebVaGO2kwThIHMX6+02V3V0SUUn8AQTG5MupsJlYuOyEUQWwdlqYZSRVHS MUGNhSj5vGRGsl1ceLG3A/odb4pWECbJBXBECX4zzVW8cExjeFC5zusKugJE5fNegQ8X JBbg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=zBNC+hKhhDncv2KhdlxFtu1hhkOiotRL2aKZqhwJdTw=; b=YHvbmWDf3f05ioXZeuyer0NK+JEsCLAblulhf3UE+fWLlJ0y8DTkGirNZX2kST6e/A vq+B2Tfrnf3x35qP0O+SA/gE01YTS3SjM/3aT77szg6+bej6al8zdZqEYfS2OUTEt2xc Y6ywT0lXlip+Df7aplAYCeXIfVB3UuhklSKpz32PvQ5lZrCKxO+3vNnTgg58Bd0/pBAE sy3R3dnw2Gjq2ZD+vFfa4v44yhU2pR21tFzc6UDY3smGEva24oAuvErIH6WCDh7b4RD9 c9uPbmf9dGFiFJ7gtS30jTiqe/V5cpZTdlUYHCCoZxBCd/vndVvbqU3Ai6rRXsu5BR3V jE9w== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJK5BCa75Lhr5oMln+wJiZmFdXet6K3JGaUIoyNmXHQZ23etw62E0iowV/XYGgLPprqVphkHpIxwBGmrrA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.157.57.131 with SMTP id y3mr2962655otb.169.1459966312036; Wed, 06 Apr 2016 11:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.79.215 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Apr 2016 11:11:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2415E651-1852-4B48-A9B8-553D1A2507AE@gmail.com> <4A573483-5188-4893-82B3-721AEF527534@gmail.com> <5031EE38-920A-4B08-858A-5DC4302450AA@gmx.de> <3C097824-8754-4169-8FAB-7C802C2FB5D8@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 11:11:51 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: moeller0 Cc: Jonathan Morton , cake@lists.bufferbloat.net, make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [Cake] new code point proposed X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 18:11:52 -0000 I note that somewhere along the line in the last few days I read a very good outline of the ietf proposal to dedicate ECT(1) to a DCTCP-like use, discussing the benefits and problems and alternate approaches. Jonathon's ELR was mentioned, but I'll be damned if I can find it again. It might have been part of thursdays bar bof, don't remember. I thought it was in iccrg, wasn't. I have a LOT more hope for repurposing ECT(1) than diffserv markings. In other news (I am not at ietf) mptcp over bonded radios to an aircraft is quite neat. https://buenayreb.conf.meetecho.com/q-meetecho/Index.jsp