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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Georgios Amanakis <gamanakis@gmail.com>
Cc: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 3
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 11:46:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw6g_eg3AJ6r+1DjZRz4TQ+TVsq6fg-CTgKMKBCjkqW_AA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw4mUx0Xu4z0B_nFYny3wBDKfTOi6a=srNmMwK1TVkw3hQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Georgios Amanakis <gamanakis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> cake vs sfq and fq_codel looks great! You already have fq_codel in the
>> graphs, do you mean codel?

Heh. I meant codel, yes.

>> In terms of simulating CMTS I am trying to simulate a cable connection.
>> Is the following reasonable?
>> ===========8<===========
>> servers --- delay --- isp --- mbox --- clients
>>
>> delay:
>> tc qdisc replace dev delay.r root netem delay ZZms rate XXXmbit limit 100000
>> tc qdisc replace dev delay.l root netem delay ZZms rate XXXmbit limit 100000
>
> There is not much need to specify the rate here, just the delay. You
> could like say 10Gbit, if you wanted.
>
>> isp:
>> tc qdisc replace dev isp.l root bfifo limit 1024k
>> tc qdisc replace dev isp.r root bfifo limit 1024k
>
> No, because this is not the bottleneck queue. isp.r
>
>     tc qdisc del dev isp.r root # a little uncertain of what happens with handle
>     tc qdisc replace dev isp.r root handle 1: netem rate YYYmbit \
>              limit 100000
>     tc qdisc add dev isp.r parent 1:1 handle 10:1 bfifo limit 1024k
>
> I think.
>
>> mbox:
>> tc qdisc replace dev mbox.l root cake bandwidth YYYmbit
>> tc qdisc replace dev mbox.r root cake bandwidth YYYmbit
>
>     tc qdisc del dev mbox.r root # to leave it unshaped
>     # or put cake back in to shape it after the isp shaper above.
>
>
>
>> ===========8<===========
>>
>> George
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's really hard to argue with. An fq_codel same conditions (and
>>> pfifo and pie) might be interesting here.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Georgios Amanakis <gamanakis@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > I gave high RTT with high bandwidth a try:
>>> > server   --   delay  --  mbox  --  client
>>> > netserver   300/300ms  45/900mbit  flent
>>> >
>>> > I had to run flent with "-s 0.61" in order to avoid errors with fping
>>> > dying
>>> > prematurely.
>>> > Comparing noack, ack, and ack-aggressive, ack seems to give the highest
>>> > download rates.
>>> > Cake was setup with "rtt 600ms".
>>> >
>>> > George
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> High RTT with relatively high bandwidth is traditionally considered
>>> >> challenging, and is representative of Australasian and satellite
>>> >> connections.  Definitely do some of those.
>>> >>
>>> >> Low bandwidth should also be interesting.  DSL at 4/1 Mbit is typical
>>> >> entry level package here.
>>> >>
>>> >> - Jonathan Morton
>>> >>
>>> >>
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>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Dave Täht
>>> CEO, TekLibre, LLC
>>> http://www.teklibre.com
>>> Tel: 1-669-226-2619
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Dave Täht
> CEO, TekLibre, LLC
> http://www.teklibre.com
> Tel: 1-669-226-2619



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Dave Täht
CEO, TekLibre, LLC
http://www.teklibre.com
Tel: 1-669-226-2619

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-01 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-29 23:18 Pete Heist
2017-11-29 23:25 ` Jonathan Morton
2017-11-30 17:13   ` Georgios Amanakis
2017-11-30 17:22     ` Jonathan Morton
2017-11-30 18:07       ` Georgios Amanakis
2017-11-30 18:13         ` Jonathan Morton
2017-11-30 18:17           ` Georgios Amanakis
2017-11-30 18:27             ` Jonathan Morton
2017-11-30 18:32               ` Georgios Amanakis
2017-12-01 18:09                 ` Dave Taht
2017-12-01 18:21             ` Dave Taht
2017-11-30 20:17           ` Georgios Amanakis
2017-11-30 21:06             ` Georgios Amanakis
2017-11-30 18:01     ` Dave Taht
2017-11-30 21:03     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-30 21:11       ` Georgios Amanakis
2017-11-30 21:29         ` Georgios Amanakis
2017-11-30 21:38           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-30 21:58             ` Georgios Amanakis
2017-12-01  0:46               ` Cannot install tc-adv(for cake) on Fedora 27 Yutaka
     [not found]               ` <mailman.1238.1512089192.3609.cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2017-12-01  1:40                 ` [Cake] " Jonathan Morton
2017-12-01  1:52                   ` Bret Towe
     [not found]                     ` <CAJq5cE0u2f0OnC-Tv5pLed8QUkWj+296gokBhKDLwa9adJ6CPA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                       ` <CAJq5cE0kj3RekGBCoRXFhtpDLBreZmRXte6vzAO589jTBXvPbw@mail.gmail.com>
2017-12-01  3:32                         ` Jonathan Morton
2017-12-01  4:10                           ` Bret Towe
2017-12-01  1:53                   ` Yutaka
2017-12-01 12:49               ` [Cake] cake flenter results round 3 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-30 21:32         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-30 21:34           ` Georgios Amanakis
2017-12-01 19:23     ` Dave Taht
2017-12-01 19:29       ` Georgios Amanakis
2017-12-01 19:45         ` Dave Taht
2017-12-01 19:46           ` Dave Taht [this message]
2017-12-01 21:41             ` Georgios Amanakis
2017-12-02  1:23               ` Dave Taht
     [not found]               ` <CACvFP_hJJ22_Y032GzAe1rPpDFZK_Fbe+4Pqw9zBXntyaqUAkQ@mail.gmail.com>
2017-12-02  1:25                 ` [Cake] Fwd: " Georgios Amanakis
2017-12-02  1:31                   ` [Cake] " Georgios Amanakis
2017-12-02  1:37                     ` Georgios Amanakis
2017-12-02  1:41                     ` Dave Taht
2017-12-02 17:47                       ` George Amanakis
2017-12-02 17:59                         ` Dave Taht
2017-12-02 18:30                           ` George Amanakis
2017-12-02 18:41                             ` Dave Taht
2017-12-02 18:34                           ` Dave Taht
2017-12-02 23:50                             ` Georgios Amanakis
2018-01-02 22:54   ` Kristjan Onu
2018-01-07 20:23     ` Kristjan Onu
2017-11-30  6:28 ` Dave Taht
2017-11-30 19:26   ` Cannot Install cake qdisc to CentOS7 Yutaka
     [not found]   ` <mailman.1227.1512070029.3609.cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
     [not found]     ` <CACvFP_hnRgCsV4NiZT66xfiEjzh_jsT_u_kPjQ0XxzGpHRLi3A@mail.gmail.com>
2017-11-30 19:40       ` [Cake] " Yutaka
2017-11-30 19:40       ` Yutaka
2017-12-01 19:08 ` [Cake] cake flenter results round 3 Dave Taht

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