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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: ruben@vfn-nrw.de, Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] Status of sch_cake and sctp with ECN
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 06:48:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw7A37UWOx4hr+-UEiE9ARvcQTqa72CY504uT5BAmHcyxg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AFEC3BB3-E888-4113-8D13-67B227871C00@gmail.com>

It turns out that years ago we incorporated an sctp test into flent
but it doesn't work.

also, I tend to compile netperf with --enable-demo --enable-sctp - but
that *silently* fails unless libsctp is installed.

Anyway flent-fremont's netperf server now supports sctp, and my
firewall for ipv6 doesn't block sctp, and lo and behold,
sctp negotiates ecn.

It does this independent of the setting of the net.ipv4.tcp_ecn
variable. It always negotiates ecn.

However, its congestion control (at least in the framework of the
netperf test) is just miserable, the SCTP_STREAM test
has serious issues trying to saturate a 20Mbit link over 60 seconds.
the STREAM_STREAM_MULTI test does, though,
and you can see cake making CE markings on it. I don't have sufficient
tools or time to look into whether  it's doing the right things or
not. If anyone cares, a packet cap is up at:
http://flent-fremont.bufferbloat.net/~d/sctp/sctp.cap

On the other hand, I'm perfectly happy to have a standard, non-greedy,
reliable, protocol, one capable of multihoming, actually work from
within my home, over ipv6. It feels like the 80s, back when the future
for new protocols looked bright, and disco was king.


d@dancer:~/sctp$ Recv   Send    Send
Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed
Size   Size    Size     Time     Throughput
bytes  bytes   bytes    secs.    10^6bits/sec

212992 212992   4096    60.00       4.96
Recv   Send    Send
Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed
Size   Size    Size     Time     Throughput
bytes  bytes   bytes    secs.    10^6bits/sec

212992 212992   4096    60.00       4.89
Recv   Send    Send
Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed
Size   Size    Size     Time     Throughput
bytes  bytes   bytes    secs.    10^6bits/sec

212992 212992   4096    60.00       4.89
Recv   Send    Send
Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed
Size   Size    Size     Time     Throughput
bytes  bytes   bytes    secs.    10^6bits/sec

212992 212992   4096    60.00       4.91
Recv   Send    Send
Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed
Size   Size    Size     Time     Throughput
bytes  bytes   bytes    secs.    10^6bits/sec

212992 212992 212992    60.01       0.03
Recv   Send    Send
Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed
Size   Size    Size     Time     Throughput
bytes  bytes   bytes    secs.    10^6bits/sec

212992 212992 212992    60.01       0.03
Recv   Send    Send
Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed
Size   Size    Size     Time     Throughput
bytes  bytes   bytes    secs.    10^6bits/sec

212992 212992 212992    60.01       0.09
Recv   Send    Send
Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed
Size   Size    Size     Time     Throughput
bytes  bytes   bytes    secs.    10^6bits/sec

212992 212992 212992    60.01       0.03

      reply	other threads:[~2018-10-10 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-07  8:45 Ruben
2018-10-08  5:06 ` Dave Taht
2018-10-08  5:16 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-10-10 13:48   ` Dave Taht [this message]

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