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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant <kevin@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk>
Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cake] Running Cake at long RTTs
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 17:34:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw7H9CTVV1QzHkVKogSgftDcdBGNh3RDS3q1Fi4Uvqa7ag@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5632591A.5040403@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk>

Good spot, thx!
Dave Täht
I just invested five years of my life to making wifi better. And,
now... the FCC wants to make my work, illegal for people to install.
https://www.gofundme.com/savewifi


On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
<kevin@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> wrote:
>
>
> On 27/10/15 15:14, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>> So Dave and I did a bit of testing of Cake at a 1-second base RTT. That
>> showed that, compared with a straight FIFO queue (with a sufficiently
>> large buffer), throughput was suffering quite a bit under Cake,
>> especially at large bandwidths. We did two changes to fix this:
>>
>> - Turn the hard packet queue size into a lower bound rather than an
>>   upper bound.
>>
>> - Scale the target to be 1/16th of the interval.
>>
>> The first change allows Cake to actually reach the target throughput,
>> but it still takes a long while to get there. With the second change, we
>> actually get the desired behaviour. The attached plot shows the
>> difference, with the solid line being before the change and the dashed
>> line being after the change.
>>
>> Patch attached.
>>
>> -Toke
>
> That patch is really going to behave strangely indeed.  You end up with
>     b->cparams.interval = max(rtt_est_ns +  b->cparams.target -
> ns_target,b->cparams.target * 8);
>     b->cparams.target = max(max(byte_target_ns, ns_target),
> b->cparams.interval >> 4);
>
> So interval no matter what happens takes note of 'cparams.target' which
> hasn't yet been set (on first run is 0)
> And target wants to take interval/16, which may be based on the previous
> calculation.  Erm.  Needs more thought.
>
> My brain isn't working at the moment due to illness, but recursively
> playing with bandwidth settings on cake is most entertaining at the
> moment ;-)
>
> Kevin (dead with cold/high as a kite on cold drugs)
>
>
>
>
>
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-30 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-27 15:14 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-10-27 15:16 ` Loganaden Velvindron
     [not found] ` <6499FF74-D13B-4B2E-90E3-D1FDD3FD1468@gmx.de>
2015-10-27 16:50   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-10-27 17:14     ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-10-27 19:04 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-10-27 23:57   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-10-28  9:36     ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-10-28 15:28 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-10-28 15:36   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-10-28 15:50     ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-10-28 16:34       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-10-28 17:44         ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-10-29 17:36 ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2015-10-30 20:30   ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2015-10-30 21:34   ` Dave Taht [this message]

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