From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk0-x230.google.com (mail-qk0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E442C3B25E for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 06:21:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qk0-x230.google.com with SMTP id z190so22092160qkc.2 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 03:21:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=rUzUi1Ffo+pHmUFDO8PgomY8RvNBKMFJz17U4QonOYA=; b=XbjoJ4He0ArSkHp5Zwy3wVcCBvYCDSmFdTX/b5TtyScq/y8cB2/pE5R/THfajDnFs2 H6K4TNTfjO06VTMliG4e5fNdWErmSjM1A3uHmTUhY/NUmcp6de8O5T+fn1d/7UQeSOOP /HS6LAfEE6So1oSc1PCOvDU1wCBfi+2weakrdDHDUsWsJyVtGY+Tfx4wLqeTfEB3j8bo dmakNxU97h3mxd+rWPpIUITNU/gDzTC4ft4NbS6dWQZOBCMeXY6pflmjjfLXXcsoXfmM cxv+kPO2NOHP9kIFhCtk56cfohgSd0ffgULTHCzAYJ2qe3LvtShrVrGTj78o593aMOme QZ3g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=rUzUi1Ffo+pHmUFDO8PgomY8RvNBKMFJz17U4QonOYA=; b=D0V9B7Zit/k9dv+ymbRDOpTnsqn/ix/HdJHKi5GOWs/wuT3YXJt1frfPFkvJtXMbno PKMEMrX/rY+WtgIn2lK8BZyprgPg+TocrD1T+RNIaLcHMZP7Cg1nxffvc4TjYxfG5J8F CZxPFPBcGOpLj8vr57tukCbXeIr6SEcKVbSzeQCx2U7ZL1TVDAjH/RUr8/QrnVwjmx+X NPg70a1nQalj0IvvC8G0vNqtvYBt16hp+Bze+9Y0a9jvgJ6uYLSoch6Kg53KpG3kE0pC xXEjZxcx9Xo4My3dO06xMu8FxAIz+/717zq9VSc+FTCJLlKrChjibMpeHEukPsVTeji4 IKbQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9Rk5Vwb03UFpJZt/pW5LRh0OorEF7qzoGxAIYvFdVKe5H9Pk+6VnWaMLOfz6K0Kf6uoYP8RZiNrmBNG3kg== X-Received: by 10.55.215.87 with SMTP id m84mr319624qki.196.1476267664538; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 03:21:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.146.164 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 03:21:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4D2419FB-6649-4250-9D42-E6EDECFFCCDE@gmail.com> <95CB6153-524D-499A-8E85-231C5098A4DB@gmx.de> From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 03:21:04 -0700 Message-ID: To: ching lu Cc: moeller0 , cake@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [Cake] diffserv based on firewall mark X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 10:21:05 -0000 I still defend the idea of the diffserv "squash" option cake once had. It was essentially RFC compliant, simple to use, and because iptables was too late on inbound, needed, no matter the layer violation.