From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt0-x22c.google.com (mail-qt0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D52773B2A4 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 14:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id o9-v6so29076qtp.3 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:55:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wxjq9Ju2mN8w992DjaCfhkV4ZOvDM2rG8xezzxBgRuU=; b=UPV5pWTkNGzgIZR6ojPt6jkfjJyGG27r5y7uX6HBVuJw3Utekmb7FifFIPML2WcoJh mt5aVtmSFKm504o4K6OO4ad87/1Wce/PzOzxRJWz4jOUzH7clbLQwh/MaXf1r4jcd0bm XLdf2dfREXLRPnOD0RwbcKejnKRipdj52AdaHxhADhxcOO+OG3arKTwyi8pVe+x1ZNFl khtJzZ+c5DR4nixszsX0ZgEg+O3fqHlCTXyTDTX5lppHv56e1k4ThQz92O3bwl8um2n7 eieEbKgUmP5QH22rxZbjpL/IjYkVsqXBLeLsVMvgRuEgoamLDvjx3+k5Js4LrksRERqj 23Gg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wxjq9Ju2mN8w992DjaCfhkV4ZOvDM2rG8xezzxBgRuU=; b=D5Iqznn2aKBBDNm6J8/kl8v224Tm+YvcvexkhuEVfhKUVF2NSHRK3nvHnSCcfioYEq hskfG6ejB3Rp0QZf/bMM4760qQHTMCeZELSyBRoVjv+2YN3qJZNDhQhAPsGItg85TJFB wEoXx7NczMMlkoxuFy1yKnMO/Je1ZMkBDg+ONBJHFDV53Jxv+zWNgMxZX6Y5M+6/JStQ zzVkn4xRRRySR4x4bSO54efwrpExG14DWw22qQ7lbrPMiYFxU3/xZOKgQISlh7RfYhdu ZUKH8gFfE2Qe6Ld4x72kDrDHg8E5K0/MYKB323RIKiBBNGvnnB5RsYXbi+dBd9cTafmh WTJg== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E04GRh22ZvVfmjmiyuPuLSKQ0hiCjE0J2OsWi1Jh0qVDEnIE/ZA NU/1JIzqXaDVbmBHR2w2GCMrX9MyDTwRviARs44= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKLFiBPAYyqU6Zu1ZnmTg33s6YRIKmi+HdRxvI4eMY9kpTSP00D6DCEKepoAAh6lytwe8JLRxrSjku6lRH9Mcz0= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:da0a:: with SMTP id x10-v6mr1705543qvj.158.1528829701371; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:55:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:aed:24f0:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:55:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6500246E-2382-48FD-8FC7-A15452D42042@heistp.net> References: <87wov5hzvq.fsf@toke.dk> <20180611125425.792d4dcc@xeon-e3> <6500246E-2382-48FD-8FC7-A15452D42042@heistp.net> From: Dave Taht Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:55:00 -0700 Message-ID: To: Pete Heist Cc: Cake List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Cake] Bandwidith rate by host instead of global while using [dual-]srchost and [dual-]dsthost X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 18:55:02 -0000 On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 11:55 PM, Pete Heist wrote: > > On Jun 11, 2018, at 10:17 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > > I long ago ran out of motivation and money to continue working on > bufferbloat. It's fixed enough, > for those that care. It's on enough devices (more every day) now to > give those that succeed some market advantage. > > > Any thoughts on worthy work beyond bloat? I gave into despair when the shuttleworth grant didn't come through last year. I'm glad y'all keep slogging on. I started at this as a third world problem. Living in the first world is thus far proving too expensive. Unless I get my act together on $dayjob soon even moving back to Nicaragua will be impossible. (and Nica is currently very dicy politically) I'm still primarily motivated by fixing the internet outside the usa. My daydream, once I had enough cash in the bank or some (say, 50k) maintenence level of income, was to sail from pacific island to pacific island, updating uplinks along the way, finishing up writing a few papers, contemplating some other currently insoluable networking problems - like routing. These days... I don't know. I'm at a cusp. If I keep failing at dayjob for another month I'll try to find something outside this field entirely. Last year, being dead broke, I did construction for a while. It was good for me. > Heaving cake over the transom is the "last" thing. And after 18 > versions in the last round, toke's fried, I'm fried, everybody's > fried. I'm very happy it started cracking 40gbits, stumped at the bug > stopping us. > > > I wish I could even reproduce that, then I=E2=80=99d at least take a cave= man > approach to solving it. > > I *am* going to washington DC week after next for the lanman2018 > > presentation of cake, and perhaps I'll find a way to raise some hell > with the FCC, congress, or the FTC (suggestions wanted), but... > > > Please do. The only idea I have at the moment is to stand outside the ftc's offices in a zoot suit with guitar and empty violin case. > > I feel we need a re-decentralization of the Internet=E2=80=99s infrastruc= ture and > services, and the FCC=E2=80=99s actions are not helping. I=E2=80=99m not = sure how to get > that across when the only language spoken is money. Obama's FTC seemed like a better place than the FCC for many issues. --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-669-226-2619