From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pg1-x52f.google.com (mail-pg1-x52f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::52f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 555DC3B2A4 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2024 12:17:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-pg1-x52f.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-5ce2aada130so1320359a12.1 for ; Tue, 09 Jan 2024 09:17:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1704820648; x=1705425448; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=g9s8t9KrALE2hrWbuvIJYAMhlBlWFa2h3b+/5mUuVNA=; b=S6BgmGDkGxMv5WOQ+4MbnHQCEMXhv5uOrxM4AIiqAe5+tLy7lxghlt9w+Z9evsCxZK luSsjSIAh5a1NbIccRNPVqufzigbGI18odEmd1ot+iFvc3Igaf9dCc1YuPq/Ne2MAF7v jy7b/07KAsq78fsgEtvw5rcNhRVGQKqpbnTC2UHZ+DdBNnXYytizCQWmStWWmoulnYW5 z1hUdkkpQIzFTtsjV03IIUHrCMMjNoIS+b01fG5keFePeYKYigTGyCFbmHmi7t61Js0D 8cuQO4WZmH/buVQhUSI+pUZolSjvr3NHICZVGrGLrYhnWZy1ciOQdW6yP9FajdX9GmuH 3GFg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1704820648; x=1705425448; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=g9s8t9KrALE2hrWbuvIJYAMhlBlWFa2h3b+/5mUuVNA=; b=uHimwWy/IYTPMw3bSdeQlsUz9iyv1TbPG5+vCiNMA8IhYdVJ7YkPwpXBQFzLU78lp7 2btX7Vs7tA485GXtbgB+dMLkDdauTb4climQU6kB6pdrd5AiSorzzDKGRtCPPl6j7jac M/QZjW2QRbgL0gU0HkWqUeeCWdMkbARQ0i1R3Kzf5ztn4a3J8DdgIbd6TU6WEnMqxpoq 1NjCbUMHoJrdEQTgb1BVAjmjz2xserVwfzzxMToUwFAjxVhobrZcmb6QenAUEqmnQ2x5 6gWi0Svs+48Iaa2ydn64/uJNToRKeMHHvsq7byunyP2YsjLc2fz0sNf/TcGufBdFvQdk 1Lvw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwlsCm+1g/NiNJotnJpJ2CJgJd6QECD7EgiVSFbESkQN8EfD0zV j85BmjJ1rnAaNWmvtmnvkKZ7cV/TyPLiYpAqN7VgRsx4kKc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFXfGXOD+k8AU/e7hUILrYPQHYCRmqPZSqMHV/TyM3WnthfrAC8acE4unNI4PbSRLQJxU8y4Q1V84Dd9Pj1Tg4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:2da9:b0:199:7fd2:cc with SMTP id bf41-20020a056a202da900b001997fd200ccmr2275680pzb.122.1704820648135; Tue, 09 Jan 2024 09:17:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <65325791-A1D1-4E21-9F1D-D17737BCFF0F@lochnair.net> <867A6BD3-28C6-467A-977C-932DFB6B8E08@lochnair.net> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2024 12:17:16 -0500 Message-ID: To: dave seddon Cc: Nils Andreas Svee , CAKE list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Cake] Ubiquity (Unifi ) Smart Queues X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2024 17:17:29 -0000 Principal limitation for libreqos on a small box is has to have multiple hardware queues and support eBPF. Seriously folks, running libreqos at home is *serious overkill*, although I have to admit the traffic graphs are mesmerizing!!! One of our ISPs has been setting them to music: https://www.youtube.com/@trendaltoews7143 Herbert has been working on adding all sorts of other analytics to it also. On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 12:07=E2=80=AFPM dave seddon wrote: > > Nils - I guess you could run LibreQoS on N100? > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 8:57=E2=80=AFAM Nils Andreas Svee via Cake wrote: >> >> On Jan 9, 2024, at 17:05, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 10:40=E2=80=AFAM Nils Andreas Svee via Cake >> wrote: >> >> Though frankly, I don=E2=80=99t plan on updating the sch_cake and tc bin= aries when new firmwares are released anymore, as they don=E2=80=99t publis= h the GPL archives on their webpage after the redesign, and they don=E2=80= =99t respond to requests for them either by the looks of the forums. So if = it breaks there=E2=80=99s not much I can do anymore. >> >> >> This irks me enormously. It is the direct outcome of the cambium >> elevate lawsuit, where both companies lost, the ISPs lost, open source >> practices long established about publishing sources, lost, and the >> lawyers went on to other nasty things leaving this trail of awful >> precedents in their wake. >> >> https://www.mtin.net/blog/ubnt-vs-cambium/ >> >> Wow, hadn=E2=80=99t read about that. They even sued an ISP just for usin= g Cambium=E2=80=99s software on their hardware? >> That is crazy, just evil corporate lawyers doing their thing I guess. >> >> I do not know what to do about it. It also irks me that as a >> contributor to "smart queues" they are not maintaining it well. >> >> It leaves something to be desired yes, and I would=E2=80=99ve hoped to s= ee CAKE included too of course, >> but even WireGuard is only available in the latest release candidates wi= th the redesigned web UI, so I=E2=80=99m not holding my breath. >> >> I still have an EdgeRouter 4 that serves the family farm and one of the = 8-port switches under my desk, if only because I don=E2=80=99t wanna spend = money on replacing them, and they do serve their purpose. >> >> I=E2=80=99ve since moved though, and now live in an area that has FTTH, = so I needed something beefier to handle CAKE on a 750/750 subscription, bec= ause obviously there=E2=80=99s still bloat even on that ;) >> >> One of those Chinese boxes with a N100 in it and OpenWrt on top works wo= nders :) >> >> Best Regards, >> Nils Andreas Svee >> _______________________________________________ >> Cake mailing list >> Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake > > > > -- > Regards, > Dave Seddon > +1 415 857 5102 --=20 40 years of net history, a couple songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD9RGX6QFm5E Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos