From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-il1-x12b.google.com (mail-il1-x12b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91C863B29D for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 19:19:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-il1-x12b.google.com with SMTP id c16so84706ilr.3 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 16:19:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AkFsF4bLxFr5J6jrq2dd6etrcyanKDogD2AzIEnHCnU=; b=r81g0NZqyl3HnijX79y9LNQpn479bdM8Kgx+8LRLQ53M1FoGhcf/saa4OhMx88ZItK uuH6nWm2bgG2lCBGFLsZuq0VImcSH0kKwOJTxC3QcHpvgTsFkR0THffVuvI3lhP0em32 oe1gASBPLKm1wE7sPX3NLbWtnTL17eo514Eb80UA/ukBwxaAjbZyUkhJ+xldwmbupuJU KebPJhY+otPFfNi0OR73Yw2CPsV2EvaYuf30abASGz130MAgzPD7E3VRvno+v/M9FqOA 8LHNHAar9SC7hlX+qV1gaaP3clAL1XB2yT/Yh43dcjtR9rC12FAB30PvZb58lIXaObcM FjbA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AkFsF4bLxFr5J6jrq2dd6etrcyanKDogD2AzIEnHCnU=; b=OnL45TKh+RRt+GerxYVYhf1Lxj9BTsaQ8VERklZdu/3iosCSYNWN+BopVDxoiGmD9b nfbljDnKdcaSWUMgZ201Dkjz1/YDY49xNdjKaIwZMXFCm+tWPFwIf4y15vbNPd0kMNpX r//ca5Ft75TCexq2vHV4CtZvwLg4uORoKj0vqf/sC1nWQIhmVRdur/PQI/xsGYvKAL+k +Yf5+sOIF348dEOgOV2GnCRC9uRzjd85Wiz6G4bjQbvZYbcJN+7gQlLxNf87F7EYQ75q d8nLCPkRx3mK9IY9LKymP2UkiK3ar7PRVvEI0w8ufLu5LSTjGJNHmTHhgkxtXad0NFKv lIBA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuZuPqImUusplngLJd+Yj2qdL4tukBKJvyRHBBNjTN0olHyTaQ5G 2tUZuTy2nEn9096PYsUSiAm9DwSyjS7dE8oOwkY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypIvariunEwzV1NapaVg+9x/0YUSzFD+55xXz4aw9PYvF7QvdJJaN+n+09l33smwvzeueyZO1qj5EG3sHLGDgn4= X-Received: by 2002:a92:8e50:: with SMTP id k16mr24807450ilh.45.1587511164104; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 16:19:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <75FEC2D9-BFC8-4FA2-A972-D11A823C5528@gmail.com> <189eb1a9-ea02-452b-92f3-8005f97eb612@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <189eb1a9-ea02-452b-92f3-8005f97eb612@www.fastmail.com> From: Dave Taht Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 16:19:12 -0700 Message-ID: To: Justin Kilpatrick Cc: Cake List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Cake] Advantages to tightly tuning latency X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:19:24 -0000 On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 4:07 PM Justin Kilpatrick wrote= : > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > > It has always been my dream, that at least for outbound, there would > > be sufficient backpressure from the driver > > to not have to shape at all, or monitor the link. We have that now in > > BQL and AQL. free.fr's dsl driver "does the right thing" - no other > > dsl driver does. Nor usb network devices. I hope more folk roll up > > their sleeves and test the ath10k some, it's looking lovely from here. > > > > https://forum.openwrt.org/t/aql-and-the-ath10k-is-lovely/ > > > > next up either the new mediatek chip or intel.. > > I'm curious if you have any opinions about the WiFi stacks for the Marvel= Armada Marvell's wifi is currently "not horrible", but certainly overbuffered. >and Qualcomm IPQ40xx. I was under the impression this looked like an ath10k to the world. Am I wrong? What products is it in these days? >Any trees I should be barking up for better performance? We have had some = complaints in higher interference areas... > > These devices have the best WireGuard performance per dollar for Althea's= use case so we're deploying them pretty heavily. > > -- > Justin Kilpatrick > justin@althea.net --=20 Make Music, Not War Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-435-0729