From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk0-x236.google.com (mail-qk0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 844DA3B29E for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2018 01:14:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qk0-x236.google.com with SMTP id o2-v6so4846811qkc.13 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 22:14:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=U1iAZpinNrmlDzEuXooKIFpuKeYIgn313FKcS20bkwM=; b=BqhfD5t9If1+V+0tURoBq/rsWy0PTWtlspluOm4JuA7RPaMEveBA+9Jc30IBWEBf4D 8KBhgaAPuQTWz7VBdDa3HHDxjhl536Oihd4EOacwVWazvkFFfCndfUPY77oyLWENV6EJ MdJzFEGSap/x+P3S1my/wxT2me6J6rOPHWvxS3SiYjuxt49Azcs5kYBjWcQzrex1041M T3wahfusTFMJPTCMM+3fEDaebn6jTEuIbwo/2LsvcKas/Xr8erKO4eH8gS+fdzzUqZo4 TwbYQeqHFI4S7UgcMHuhIJ8nHz/JP394VqgJasOcAiwaIuYUOJVYT4aIARo8kZsPkFdN k1Fw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=U1iAZpinNrmlDzEuXooKIFpuKeYIgn313FKcS20bkwM=; b=dNUrflYpUziSrl9bgClQjMZMhHlIliqtjga/26ERjUw+hNV4du/DH0Ny32kKF3eh4V eS6912fpdwh6oLu/BQj7Y6qnEq16HXAykFb7RqEJnp6y8FpSEgiVxS/EEXcHwpHkbwys xVTLy1gpnxY7dMJP/XrRGn4T0BCUYF+e9sS97p3+o2+4bUOv5Nw0lh5q/n6PyR5BwUfJ pGRyg0xrUiFO4ZtQyANdz3rjfMteqMX+QpWm8c73PoYcph5s7WDvfhMmwJLqAq/AAOxI sKdgLQpDdflXTvdFIXhr9Yv6jO2UMisj/qoAMtjnDfm74CoXOzRu9NjEeuY/aFTwkVMs M9lA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E2M0IU5cuUuX3G0koBj0vM4Pmd36NK9+vnS0S1ASOAdmmo3F9Mn HLc55f9S40kgUdHknh/IDrfE0IdV3sz0V+wna85X9Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpdF61lT/e5zN/VsBuOIey38JhD/xzqVP1RV1tuyCTpbka4fSa5uUv5xJdghNazDuUKIq7WYN/mrBhPzal3kEbY= X-Received: by 2002:a37:2121:: with SMTP id h33-v6mr3676377qkh.319.1529730861750; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 22:14:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <944870507.1373672.1529653545007@webmail.strato.de> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 22:14:10 -0700 Message-ID: To: Cake List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Cake] lanman2018 cake talk ideas X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 05:14:22 -0000 I have to get on the plane tomorrow night at midnight and I've tried to capture some of your comments and ideas in: http://www.taht.net/~d/cake/sch_cake_ieee_lanman2018.odp It's in its usual mess at this point - usually I don't share stuff this raw! but I'm totally open to text suggestions, graphics, etc, etc, etc - there's the plane flight and more than a few days left to pound it into shape and after I get a feel for the conference monday will end up doing another pass before the talk tuesday. What to say on each slide is helpful (jokes appreciated, a lot of what I've had to say so far is dripping with sarcasm which I know doesn't translate well). I think focusing on per host fq is probably the strongest point to develop and I kind of wanted a diagram of a whole bunch of different host types and graphically illustrating what happens vs fifo, fq_codel, and cake. off to pack On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 1:05 AM Pete Heist wrote: > > > On Jun 22, 2018, at 9:45 AM, Felix Resch wrote: > > ... has no Wikipedia page yet ... > > > here you go https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Megabit_myth > > > Thanks! Now the problem is solved. :) > > I only had some second thoughts, and let=E2=80=99s get this right and be = consistent, is it: > > 1) Megabit myth > 2) Megabits myth > 3) Megabits per second myth > > #3 is the accurate one, but in this day and age every syllable can someho= w slow an idea down. I=E2=80=99m leaning towards #2. I=E2=80=99ve also hear= d non-technical people say =E2=80=9Chow many Megabits is it?=E2=80=9D when = referring to an Internet connection, as if the =E2=80=9Cper second=E2=80=9D= part is already too much to handle. :) > > _______________________________________________ > Cake mailing list > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-669-226-2619