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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] cake's ack-filter vs GSO
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 11:26:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw7y+S6NvRf+Q_VtqJkDnWQJO5Cr5d_En6wHvas6pEBT1w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875xyldhbk.fsf@toke.dk>

On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 8:37 AM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
>
> Dave Taht via Cake <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net> writes:
>
> > It has been years since I looked at cake's code.
> >
> > Does anyone remember why we do not ack-filter a gso-split?
>
> Because a GSO packet cannot be a pure ACK, so it wouldn't be filtered
> anyway...

But a GRO packet can, and most likely IS a pure ack packet train that
could and should be thinned. I think. Yes?

Anyway, I put in for a small grant a few months ago with NLNET on this
(and keep hoping that somewhere out there, there are more orgs using
cake willing to throw in? I mean there are hundreds now! Can anyone
reach out to them?)

It might be approved in a month or so - but it also had scope in
looking at transports and the BSDs, and I keep hoping to somehow find
enough resources to have a project with 3 core folk running at it part
time for 2 years.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tTYBPeaRdCO9AGTGQCpoiuLORQzN_bG3TAkEolJPh28/edit

Elsewhere a volunteer started some work on validating the fq_codel
implementations of openbsd and freebsd. The results are interesting!
The "wrong" openbsd version with a 400 count cap does not behave much
differently from the one with the pure newton invsqrt approximation in
the tests so far. Can anyone suggest tests to exercise it?

Do I have the energy to write them up yet? No. I might start yet
another mailing list to discuss it. My long term hope is to gain
enough experience, somehow get cake ported over to those OSes
eventually, but I would settle for just quieting the noise in the
opnsense world.

I am trying to have a BQL discussion on the netdev list also, about
virtio-net...

Maybe this presentation will gain traction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWnb543Sdk8&t=2603s


>
> -Toke



--
https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/2024_predictions/
Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-23 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-18  0:01 Dave Taht
2024-02-18  0:31 ` Jonathan Morton
2024-02-18 13:37 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-02-23 16:26   ` Dave Taht [this message]
2024-02-23 16:39     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-02-23 17:03       ` Dave Taht

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