From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd32.google.com (mail-io1-xd32.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F9EE3CB35; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:13:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd32.google.com with SMTP id f4so45626358ioh.6; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 06:13:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KcUwPBjbppHQ7fOl198YFInFjhNMQEZwj8685TuEKY8=; b=MKoVpuUKgB9NC6lIFr/lkBuchJbKDDFXlLUOw1cqLYfIDVnsGM0jHsp0hL9dewkXpf 9vSYjI3cG+Z95Hl9+JT+/WHH706JQNK3wQLlTiKozGLiRKllssE8U06+1S6EMv8Opl0p v/kwLjF8NXeSTly8MNAa070txPMTE49QH79udwrfyT/skl/PZd4ZqkKbeg8f25/h8Zsu Q7zIOeHTR1pY9YQ8bQ7+HgtD5khxiCbQU+RosXw+cz9GD6QFcjx8x9qj4szjlAA/M9D6 1OxUXfhLaaKfhsYdUvryMipDzZK0vpc+oMdDoOYGbxKO5H//6qjXc6ZnsvbI/dehl3WY 4zIQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KcUwPBjbppHQ7fOl198YFInFjhNMQEZwj8685TuEKY8=; b=fo9lIpBLO87scxRuUxN7YBzDgC7HL+l5nRAi32vEN8LlKnXOHE2S2DBlsA3yQuOeH+ 6yK4/QpaD9OCuCJEuitNL5vkSqa+hh0yNNL5W8vMwOjGAxGtUZqqz6wOtbjsXvscDOTs OS1yi28wAG9t7nThO7Af/d2MahJn7aURE1vOYZf1LfC/U5BodGuOxBZK2/SZsaPc3L2o /oW7GRxROkUxi7rCoKUmbb4Qf6px/6q1K3LizA3pUHUV0kfUpFHhOQzprAKHHgiWCL5b 2awYx7PK2ffgAmMgTQbCSvsLSSbPkGH+Z7VHOMV4N2ElOJ2i9seYQe5/r4f/Hj8hxRCV rO0A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW/SE4r5ofzz/D1KuiKX0ExrSTJGTVFBueifp2W6263zYnds+A2 9VeJkNG+VYSy0BhMViSLLOxfR0HDkBY2Qxwu8qvxwwXk X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwUTjANwThUZCWbXkTrQvAQ9s6BC6h9fXQT2h1DX7QKQZh+3i2fxEWJIVlA6GulxMC66tRQtbXA+7+J/+DOVq8= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:9d42:: with SMTP id k2mr33658410iok.45.1563369179478; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 06:12:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 06:12:47 -0700 Message-ID: To: ECN-Sane , Cake List , Make-Wifi-fast , cerowrt-devel , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Cake] three new internet drafts regarding SCE X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 13:13:00 -0000 IETF 105 runs from July 20-27th in Montreal. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/agenda/ tsvwg meets thursday morning 10-12, and friday 12:20- Remote attendance via videconferencing tools is straightforward. There are of course dozens of other wg meetings of possible interest, in my case, I'm still tracking babel's progress through the ietf, in particular, and I always try to check in on iccrg, also in case anything interesting comes up. Since not all members of our mailing lists are on the relevant tsvwg or tcpmwg mailing lists, here are some drafts from those working on the SCE front (I'm not, but I do read things) for aqm and transport enhancements. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-grimes-tcpmwg-tcpsce-00 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-morton-tsvwg-sce-00 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-heist-tsvwg-sce-one-and-two-flow-tests-00 I would have liked it if the the actual scripts, & flent data files were published and referenced in this last draft. (I think the pictures were published on some other email thread (?), and I look forward to the slides) My own (eventual) contribution to this work might be on the wifi front, but neither l4s or sce are baked enough yet to bother trying, IMHO. My analysis of the battlemesh fq_codel + ecn over wifi data I hope to finish this week, but I'll find an other outlet for publication. (smallest subset of observations is that we can reduce the codel target to 6ms on wifi networks that have powersave disabled, and that serious 802.11e queue use still massively sucks. details to come later) There are many, many, many other drafts in progress in tsvwg, of note might= be: https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-white-tsvwg-lld-00.txt https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-white-tsvwg-nqb-02.txt In addition to the perpetually revised l4s related ones. --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-205-9740