From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk0-x22f.google.com (mail-qk0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7A643BA8E for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 11:12:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qk0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id b123so5029277qkg.7 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 08:12:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=sbMRAZbaBROgtr1FjjHezy5JSZxOrL9LteSoFykFOVg=; b=dOAqKZ835jr5aFUIE2kpN2AkXp663j7iYvWN5J+u4JAIXfcNu754C5LZ86mz5SDhpu zJG51p0Bj47tNRcSSHO/tnJEnjw9RUd5Ph1dbjslVJn0EQVCfA3zvXK9J9YM2jhDeic2 AetRT+WATdBgoTLuhUHkQHCkGjD0Uct1tXIkazxociJR5IM4fZoOCWmL0lRuKJ0egGi/ HERaSZvzS9wje6nThRU6WfQFPA4C6U4hjxXsDGPZUm9nkica3/Zn9Bcoky7vv0yzGFaC aRkg+SuXIw7X4QSEIn4V9bL5fB862OugVIgyfec/CVyL2RKwXTM9RqqzDWZYCHnDW2+z C/Dg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=sbMRAZbaBROgtr1FjjHezy5JSZxOrL9LteSoFykFOVg=; b=h0wbdDQNx4obXStnFnrcQTD/g8yhHhaAKcwNK1b7s3/OuaagzlF/BIXfOu0tq1EyJw exaCiVclBA+oScV0QLqMZRiqO8Bj/Sct5DCHAqeBeA06uNHzp0vO3JGUtl0mYC2ktuUy uXt+lMWR0Wc3i4D3emBLfXoiFmJNydNfZhibwQlIYYJmEyHpQlQ8BjjqHM2A5vhDOJ7q Va1aqPWDtFhKOuOdGmGrzOb8M81vpwU9f+T+EZKAULlsolxToOR9+ZZ4cZ9qrNYelN3h hLbX2TI66cXXs+KKYGwnupqFTuSy3uUyKPrZwbOdSKArijM3AzrrdPwd7g81MmkT0tDq gDzQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX5dtlMcKUlTyWC/EoCwleNAF28LdLsGLIDCP9C+2QPPkPSpt8vT oldzsmWI3H36ZDVy4Ap/Sl9XGz8W1+Etr0k8+qA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMYNrAZOSixYnEoL8mxJpHnXUIE1qk/8tm+FpHsWHMffdbmpYBkii1nPvFclEbus3wGA8nmiYXZKPGODYNPlUFU= X-Received: by 10.55.221.209 with SMTP id u78mr4958045qku.68.1511971969346; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 08:12:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.95.69 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 08:12:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <15453B62-04DD-4F00-B7E9-BC7469A2FAFE@gmail.com> References: <745FEC66-95A7-40E1-A8FA-57714D3AB6AC@gmail.com> <87zi76xlw5.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <6F2894AD-87EA-4EFC-918E-625E49EDA977@gmail.com> <87o9nmxcbg.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <87bmjmxbgw.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <3FAFACA8-C918-4325-BF80-B7EBB6B9B4A7@gmail.com> <87k1y96swh.fsf@toke.dk> <20760855-77A6-456D-BFDB-2A5D17C4528A@gmail.com> <878tep6qdp.fsf@toke.dk> <15453B62-04DD-4F00-B7E9-BC7469A2FAFE@gmail.com> From: Georgios Amanakis Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 11:12:48 -0500 Message-ID: To: Pete Heist Cc: =?UTF-8?B?VG9rZSBIw7hpbGFuZC1Kw7hyZ2Vuc2Vu?= , Cake List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1146cf4624b386055f2168a1" Subject: Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 2 X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:12:49 -0000 --001a1146cf4624b386055f2168a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable @Pete @Toke just saw your responses. Thank you very much for the explanation. I will give irtt and flent-git a try, and maybe build an aur package for archlinux. George On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Pete Heist wrote: > > > On Nov 29, 2017, at 4:44 PM, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen > wrote: > > > >> (That was also informative for me about how netperf decides when to > >> emit a data point=E2=80=A6) > > > > In that case I can add that the stated reason for this way of doing > > things is performance (i.e., emitting data points should not interfere > > with transfer performance). This is mostly an issue on systems where > > getting time is expensive; which is not the case on modern Linux > > systems. But I'm not entirely sure that the optimisation only has > > historical reasons; it may be that some systems supported by Netperf > > still has this issue... > > Nice, I do respect the level of thought put into netperf=E2=80=A6 > > --001a1146cf4624b386055f2168a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
@Pete @Toke just saw your responses. Thank you very m= uch for the explanation. I will give irtt and flent-git a try, and maybe bu= ild an aur package for archlinux.

George

On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 11:= 08 AM, Pete Heist <peteheist@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 29, 2017, at 4:44 PM, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
>
>> (That was also informative for me about how netperf decides when t= o
>> emit a data point=E2=80=A6)
>
> In that case I can add that the stated reason for this way of doing > things is performance (i.e., emitting data points should not interfere=
> with transfer performance). This is mostly an issue on systems where > getting time is expensive; which is not the case on modern Linux
> systems. But I'm not entirely sure that the optimisation only has<= br> > historical reasons; it may be that some systems supported by Netperf > still has this issue...

Nice, I do respect the level of thought put into netperf=E2=80=A6

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