Would making it active only for the 'ingress' mode be an option? Otherwise it has to be documented that when using ingress mode with lots of bulk flows on <20mbit/s the actual goodput is going to be less than the set one (eg for 9.8mbit/s set, 5.3 mbit/s actual). On Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 12:25 PM Dave Taht wrote: > I would like to revert this change. > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen > wrote: > > Jonathan Morton writes: > > > >>> On 18 Apr, 2018, at 6:17 pm, Sebastian Moeller > wrote: > >>> > >>> Just a thought, in egress mode in the typical deployment we expect, > >>> the bandwidth leading into cake will be >> than the bandwidth out of > >>> cake, so I would argue that the package droppage might be acceptable > >>> on egress as there is bandwidth to "waste" while on ingress the issue > >>> very much is that all packets cake sees already used up parts of the > >>> limited transfer time on the bottleneck link and hence are more > >>> "precious", no? Users wanting this new behavior could still use the > >>> ingress keyword even on egress interfaces? > >> > >> Broadly speaking, that should indeed counter most of the negative > >> effects you'd expect from disabling this tweak in egress mode. But it > >> doesn't really answer the question of whether there's a compelling > >> *positive* reason to do so. I want to see a use case that holds up. > > > > What you're saying here is that you basically don't believe there are > > any applications where a bulk TCP flow would also want low queueing > > latency? :) > > > > -Toke > > _______________________________________________ > > Cake mailing list > > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake > > > > -- > > Dave Täht > CEO, TekLibre, LLC > http://www.teklibre.com > Tel: 1-669-226-2619 > _______________________________________________ > Cake mailing list > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake >