From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf1-x134.google.com (mail-lf1-x134.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68B163B29E for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 18:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf1-x134.google.com with SMTP id r19so32074271lfe.10 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 15:18:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lostcreek-tech.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:cc; bh=LUS7tipQ1ObqLUiQSjGxC7SW7chkKrSRf8B8+o1M33U=; b=R3d5gxCaqOwOHCuntCbenSY8HomhA3SEoqaMuMx/e7z06tDo+BD1FdZoN4DXghGzQ4 A8wSOfBu2qUGSlCn/vXauGRm3jlIeiDzc6cseVxOQPukXAk4uNMsU+CrWeHWZ4E7T5U9 iN6K+J0WyHONMrhs40dKvdSd2SJAIjWN6D/3ob1WCszB2+jXOQAWcoJ4Sc3A2ISTLZvR l0SdcVppbsi5PEQdevUvyIRMu/7LhqKyn5Dow2srtMv2UHqsYyo1H8V7Ofubl37ODmx0 yoySnkCAxjBt6wOTOSACFE9dV6glO5VamzoUVc3idzu+mntVy0k5bUkquo6Hw/ScLdC7 Bn+w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:cc; bh=LUS7tipQ1ObqLUiQSjGxC7SW7chkKrSRf8B8+o1M33U=; b=xBkxYWC3333XJztLOHIQ8h0lijlBWz6LJNGnMTbDR9UTyL3EAVSU1f4y2SLjLzL6lx p0Wzyp2MB2hUS8gMoU4IHhg6fwx2umJHR27S1nTwZXtDaKoVZkssKytY4Ho6tStFNP5+ Y0/gkfteek9nfeFo0T3lpuAF2kA58T3nRM0ZrRvx3LoTpO4ZYxRF2mtYMcn7SVAh73EC WLWOLSsPoZB5gxXNDW+Mz8Rv4JGv4JM7zr5h7Eynd08b7vdHoAnrVzzWKQd2aNhvXGz6 EunEfxGT1x/k3whLXh2s7qc/SfGvM8j+me5O63szGm4aet31qtCz63gA4QQAI9keHXp9 g5qw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533Y32TAC7cuErCutSB7WhbgGR//+vwPeRrFnIpEIj0S+u9BqBpo v9R+0d5sE42NIXNMS2cNm8FjBB/sJkfDpE9opOqzS105LTY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw+4Ev8b+T05+Cx4aJpYUtfN6u1JTT4yaJWr9mPciFIKparykxqbuxbMe/XN19GuTJN3uax4bp0tNjTKHioOp4= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:a585:: with SMTP id m5mr5641369ljp.51.1634249935773; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 15:18:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <003001d7bdf0$97282430$c5786c90$@inacomptc.com> <006001d7c129$2de82f10$89b88d30$@inacomptc.com> In-Reply-To: <006001d7c129$2de82f10$89b88d30$@inacomptc.com> From: Thomas Croghan Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 15:18:44 -0700 Message-ID: Cc: Cake List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e577c005ce577689" Subject: Re: [Cake] [Bloat] some mikrotik comments X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 22:18:57 -0000 --000000000000e577c005ce577689 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ya, I've got access to most of their CCR line, and I have a smattering of their RB line. TBH, the only places I think you will see interesting data is with the 1072 (72 tile core 1 GHz) and the 2004 (4 core 1.7 GHz ARM64). I'm also with The Brother's WISP, so if Dave wants to do a cast I can set that up with the other guys. I'm pretty sure there was some conversation about trying to get Dave on a while back. On Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 11:27 AM Jordan Szuch via Cake < cake@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > Awesome, thanks! I went and subscribed to that topic so I'll get > notifications when people reply. Hope to jump in once I'm less busy with = my > day to day work. > > Regarding more powerful hardware, I think someone replied to the mailing > list earlier offering to run some tests. Sounded like he might have some > bigger hardware to test out. Thomas Croghan back on Monday morning it loo= ks > like. > > Might also be worth reaching out to these guys to do some testing or > evangelizing at least: https://thebrotherswisp.com/ They run a podcast > with a rotating cast of network operators, WISPS, etc. And they seem pret= ty > clued into the MIkrotik world specifically. I recall that you've jumped > onto a podcast or two recently so that's why I bring it up. > > Anyway, I listen from time to time and one of the hosts brought up being > very interested in using fq_codel and CAKE in a Multi Dwelling Unit > scenario (mentioned here after a 3-4 minutes > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DyFKG_cXGPrE&t=3D4444s). Actually, I thi= nk > they even name check you in an earlier episode (found it: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQ1QitymNZTo&t=3D4285s), although one ho= st > was a bit skeptical of everything. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Taht > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:09 PM > To: Jordan Szuch > Cc: Cake List ; bloat < > bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> > Subject: Re: [Bloat] some mikrotik comments > > Thx. I put the discussion and plots over here: > > https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=3D179307 > > I might - should I feel like expounding more later this week - go back to > the flent.gz files to discuss other features. Ironically the chromebook I > have in front of me doesn't want to let me download a file via email and > make it visible in the real filesystem. I'm vm'd off from myself for some > reason. > > But my big goal, honestly, was to get some mikrotik users to test their > bigger iron... > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 9:05 AM Jordan Szuch via Bloat < > bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > > > Hi Dave, > > > > Interesting that you should send this out; I recently picked up a unit > (this one specifically: https://mikrotik.com/product/hap_ac2) to do some > testing of the v7 firmware. Nothing super high end but enough to do a > little testing. I have CAKE set to do some shaping and so far seems > functional. At least the bufferbloat speed tests from DSLReports and > WaveForm indicate some shaping is happening. If you'd like any informatio= n > about the unit, the v7 firmware, or particular tests run then I'd be happ= y > to help out. > > > > Jordan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bloat On Behalf Of Dave > > Taht > > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 11:39 AM > > To: Cake List ; bloat > > > > Subject: [Bloat] some mikrotik comments > > > > the v7 beta gained doc and more os support for fq_codel and cake > > recently > > > > https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D885000#p885000 > > > > anyone out there actively testing mikrotik? > > > > -- > > Fixing Starlink's Latencies: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dc9gLo6Xrwgw > > > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > > _______________________________________________ > > Bloat mailing list > > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bloat mailing list > > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > > > -- > Fixing Starlink's Latencies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dc9gLo6Xrwg= w > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > > _______________________________________________ > Cake mailing list > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake > --000000000000e577c005ce577689 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ya, I've got access to most of their CCR line, and I = have a smattering of their RB line. TBH, the only places I think you will s= ee interesting data is with the 1072 (72 tile core 1 GHz) and the 2004 (4 c= ore 1.7 GHz ARM64).=C2=A0

I= 9;m also with The Brother's WISP, so if Dave wants to do a cast I can s= et that up with the other guys. I'm pretty sure there was some conversa= tion about trying to get Dave on a while back.


On Thu, Oct = 14, 2021, 11:27 AM Jordan Szuch via Cake <cake@lists.bufferbloat= .net> wrote:
Awesome, thanks= ! I went and subscribed to that topic so I'll get notifications when pe= ople reply. Hope to jump in once I'm less busy with my day to day work.=

Regarding more powerful hardware, I think someone replied to the mailing li= st earlier offering to run some tests. Sounded like he might have some bigg= er hardware to test out. Thomas Croghan back on Monday morning it looks lik= e.

Might also be worth reaching out to these guys to do some testing or evange= lizing at least: https://thebrotherswisp.com/ = They run a podcast with a rotating cast of network operators, WISPS, etc. A= nd they seem pretty clued into the MIkrotik world specifically. I recall th= at you've jumped onto a podcast or two recently so that's why I bri= ng it up.

Anyway, I listen from time to time and one of the hosts brought up being ve= ry interested in using fq_codel and CAKE in a Multi Dwelling Unit scenario = (mentioned here after a 3-4 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DyFKG_cXGPrE&t=3D4444= s). Actually, I think they even name check you in an earlier episode (f= ound it: https://ww= w.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQ1QitymNZTo&t=3D4285s), although one host w= as a bit skeptical of everything.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:09 PM
To: Jordan Szuch <jordan@inacomptc.com>
Cc: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>; bl= oat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] some mikrotik comments

Thx. I put the discussion and plots over here:

https://forum.mikrotik.com/= viewtopic.php?t=3D179307

I might - should I feel like expounding more later this week - go back to t= he flent.gz files to discuss other features. Ironically the chromebook I ha= ve in front of me doesn't want to let me download a file via email and = make it visible in the real filesystem. I'm vm'd off from myself fo= r some reason.

But my big goal, honestly, was to get some mikrotik users to test their big= ger iron...

On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 9:05 AM Jordan Szuch via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Interesting that you should send this out; I recently picked up a unit= (this one specifically: https://mikrotik.= com/product/hap_ac2) to do some testing of the v7 firmware. Nothing sup= er high end but enough to do a little testing. I have CAKE set to do some s= haping and so far seems functional. At least the bufferbloat speed tests fr= om DSLReports and WaveForm indicate some shaping is happening. If you'd= like any information about the unit, the v7 firmware, or particular tests = run then I'd be happy to help out.
>
> Jordan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bloat <bloat-bounces@lists.buffer= bloat.net> On Behalf Of Dave
> Taht
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 11:39 AM
> To: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>= ;; bloat
> <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Subject: [Bloat] some mikrotik comments
>
> the v7 beta gained doc and more os support for fq_codel and cake
> recently
>
> https://forum.= mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D885000#p885000
>
> anyone out there actively testing mikrotik?
>
> --
> Fixing Starlink's Latencies:
> https://www.youtube.com/watc= h?v=3Dc9gLo6Xrwgw
>
> Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat mailing list
> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net= /listinfo/bloat
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat mailing list
> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net= /listinfo/bloat



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Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC

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