From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oi0-x235.google.com (mail-oi0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62A563B29E for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 14:23:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-oi0-x235.google.com with SMTP id n84-v6so26746401oib.9 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 11:23:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ariekanarie-nl.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=xipF9/Kp72KQpWWrLxnuWtpAHvXTIa+7T+FqmPsNEH0=; b=UZCg7h0JQQYux6gMtfme+7+pgTSRUoXHDprnDGXajf9BLO71AyB12BcLHLdmO/HEHg q4ZhnzPquKBoNARmrnTzZeDsNiovzHxY7dbGI+fScoC/xD1sFm2QVIM3EVkwE8+njIGG +fy/QMfbSEI5Z8+4ERkxNd9qWCdP8Z7EnLI+NyETxglPmsOCnywQErGwm5PqDQQYhTSH DgJHOSgDkpxKJyppN/c+0Lx3A0GgOgpdRgc7QUkGhZhq/QEU4yZC1e6RO2Zpn2ojsni5 eUzG/37GItoNEEfVOPrjDq7qy/MthbSpNvsDhD50EDradN/BCE6Jb3hOHSLaOeS2JXDL lJVQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xipF9/Kp72KQpWWrLxnuWtpAHvXTIa+7T+FqmPsNEH0=; b=KJmpYanxfxTNkfbeXlsefqgSlq3xv0D0fVY4zofVCMGAFdgkFHk5iIldXvQkRx62r6 2nXUCVooiHnappAEiGcjemHsjf60Dfw6wDbGSDYrcn+yTRmztsG24rD25a/zR9RHMmio 7rW9VjmZkukYdp6wFvAK85aKme2nE2uEHqDX01lQ85e9tBsb7bcqNTaX/MBK+0Q3rK1t 81V51qArOZqULs5Jq2CTh/rAwRE+miar165MPbV9ETGqwGm4bhKqN1LFiTNFxy2cqpLd vcJZdkzQdm6pcSeByW6al1hjOG+Cogorw/zAkhjwQUJPkjKkrUtNslykK8nIKDaJukrl f36w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlF5/lCTLC/1KcaAKMrY6Uv257ONDTvBAlfTrZatYH6GaxZgSdeM qjm68mwbvQRiTOwsjt0YKi+rNLawVGm7bUg1urxsCA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpf+zzDLeBvyF7uml+OtwtYmcIEEKHRhs4r8bjW6uyaJ/TsPCyc34NuPm+c7i5BJiUGWlT3FxPfTV+NMYPQrjYk= X-Received: by 2002:aca:b3d6:: with SMTP id c205-v6mr2878499oif.133.1532197416746; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 11:23:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: arie@ariekanarie.nl Received: by 2002:ac9:8c5:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 11:23:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [178.85.156.13] In-Reply-To: References: From: Arie Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 20:23:36 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 971FwVLz4T1sKFCf__KH21VSVQs Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: Cake List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c065cb057186827e" Subject: Re: [Cake] inbound cake or fq_codel shaping fails on cable on netflix reno X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 18:23:37 -0000 --000000000000c065cb057186827e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It does. On 21 July 2018 at 20:02, Dave Taht wrote: > In other news: > > https://github.com/tohojo/sqm-scripts/issues/68 > > does the ER4 have act_police? > > On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 10:55 AM Arie wrote: > > > > It's Ziggo NL/Liberty Global. I'm surprised by the reported latency in > the fast.com test. Both the site and the flent ping test report about the > same 60-ish ms. DSLReports and flent RRUL report way more bufferbloat, s= o > I guess those stress my connection more than fast.com > > > > > > On 21 July 2018 at 19:45, Dave Taht wrote: > >> > >> Thank you. At least for your ISP (?), at 250mbit, you can hold the > >> damage down to something reasonable, and certainly you are winning big > >> on the upload. > >> > >> Good to know the ER4 can keep up, also. > >> On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 10:36 AM Arie wrote: > >> > > >> > Unshaped reno attached. > >> > > >> > On 21 July 2018 at 19:27, Dave Taht wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Yours is not as horrific as mine in either case. > >> >> > >> >> Can you provide an unshaped result as well? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 10:24 AM Arie wrote= : > >> >> > > >> >> > Two more data points. Shaped my connection to 250Mbit out of the > advertised 250Mbit (my usual setting) and shaped to 200Mbit out of the > 250Mbit. This is a pre-linux-net-next cake running on an Edgemax ER4 with > kernel 3.10.107-UBNT. > >> >> > > >> >> > The regular spikes in ICMP ping is due to the crappy Puma 6 > chipset in the cable modem. UDP is not affected. > >> >> > > >> >> > On 21 July 2018 at 19:20, Georgios Amanakis > wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Sat, 2018-07-21 at 09:09 -0700, Dave Taht wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > 1) Can someone else on a cablemodem (even without the latest > cake, > >> >> >> > this happens to me on older cake and fq_codel) try this test? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I just tried this on my cable comcast connection. I set ingress > to ~80% > >> >> >> of what fast.com reports when no shaper is in place. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> #tc qdisc add dev ens4 root handle 8011 cake bandwidth 16000kbit > dual- > >> >> >> dsthost docsis ingress > >> >> >> #tc qdisc add dev ens3 root handle 8012 cake bandwidth 2500kbit > dual- > >> >> >> srchost nat docsis ack-filter > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I got the same result as you. This is using latest cake. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Georgios > >> >> >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> >> Cake mailing list > >> >> >> Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > >> >> >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > Cake mailing list > >> >> > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > >> >> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> > >> >> Dave T=C3=A4ht > >> >> CEO, TekLibre, LLC > >> >> http://www.teklibre.com > >> >> Tel: 1-669-226-2619 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Dave T=C3=A4ht > >> CEO, TekLibre, LLC > >> http://www.teklibre.com > >> Tel: 1-669-226-2619 > > > > > > > -- > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > CEO, TekLibre, LLC > http://www.teklibre.com > Tel: 1-669-226-2619 > --000000000000c065cb057186827e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It does.

On 21 July 2018 at 20:02, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
In other news:

https://github.com/tohojo/sqm-scripts/issues/68<= /a>

does the ER4 have act_police?

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 10:55 AM Arie <nospam@ariekanarie.nl> wrote:
>
> It's Ziggo NL/Liberty Global. I'm surprised by the reported la= tency in the fast.com test. Both the site and the flent ping test report about th= e same 60-ish ms.=C2=A0 DSLReports and flent RRUL report way more bufferblo= at, so I guess those stress my connection more than fast.com
>
>
> On 21 July 2018 at 19:45, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you. At least for your ISP (?), at 250mbit, you can hold the=
>> damage down to something reasonable, and certainly you are winning= big
>> on the upload.
>>
>> Good to know the ER4 can keep up, also.
>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 10:36 AM Arie <nospam@ariekanarie.nl> wrote:
>> >
>> > Unshaped reno attached.
>> >
>> > On 21 July 2018 at 19:27, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yours is not as horrific as mine in either case.
>> >>
>> >> Can you provide an unshaped result as well?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 10:24 AM Arie <nospam@ariekanarie.nl> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Two more data points. Shaped my connection to 250Mbi= t out of the advertised 250Mbit (my usual setting) and shaped to 200Mbit ou= t of the 250Mbit. This is a pre-linux-net-next cake running on an Edgemax E= R4 with kernel 3.10.107-UBNT.
>> >> >
>> >> > The regular spikes in ICMP ping is due to the crappy= Puma 6 chipset in the cable modem. UDP is not affected.
>> >> >
>> >> > On 21 July 2018 at 19:20, Georgios Amanakis <gamanakis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sat, 2018-07-21 at 09:09 -0700, Dave Taht wro= te:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 1) Can someone else on a cablemodem (even w= ithout the latest cake,
>> >> >> > this happens to me on older cake and fq_cod= el) try this test?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I just tried this on my cable comcast connection= . I set ingress to ~80%
>> >> >> of what fast.com reports when no shaper is in place. >> >> >>
>> >> >> #tc qdisc add dev ens4 root handle 8011 cake ban= dwidth 16000kbit dual-
>> >> >> dsthost docsis ingress
>> >> >> #tc qdisc add dev ens3 root handle 8012 cake ban= dwidth 2500kbit dual-
>> >> >> srchost nat docsis ack-filter
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I got the same result as you. This is using late= st cake.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Georgios
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ___________________________________________= ____
>> >> >> Cake mailing list
>> >> >> Ca= ke@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> >> >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/= listinfo/cake
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________=
>> >> > Cake mailing list
>> >> > Cake@l= ists.bufferbloat.net
>> >> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Dave T=C3=A4ht
>> >> CEO, TekLibre, LLC
>> >> http://www.teklibre.com
>> >> Tel: 1-669-226-2619
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Dave T=C3=A4ht
>> CEO, TekLibre, LLC
>> http://www.teklibre.com
>> Tel: 1-669-226-2619
>
>


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Dave T=C3=A4ht
CEO, TekLibre, LLC
ht= tp://www.teklibre.com
Tel: 1-669-226-2619

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