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From: Shefali Gupta <shefaligups11@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: Jendaipou Palmei <jendaipoupalmei@gmail.com>, cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cake] COBALT implementation in ns-3 with results under different traffic scenarios
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 00:36:04 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFp5xQ7JXs+Kj+mhaBSEx_PheWZ_2g=LKAychjcwSmh84SWgZQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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Hello Jonathan,

Thanks for your feedback.

As suggested, we have produced CoDel and PIE graphs with small NIC buffer
and uploaded the corresponding graphs.

Link:
https://github.com/Daipu/COBALT/wiki/Link-Utilization-Graphs-with-Different-NetDeviceQueue-size

We have also uploaded one way end-to-end dela*y* graphs in Light traffic
scenario for CoDel, COBALT and PIE.
Link: https://github.com/Daipu/COBALT/wiki/End-To-End-Delay-Graphs

Thanks a lot for your help. We really appreciate it.

Regards,
Shefali Gupta
Jendaipou Palme

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 8:45 PM Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > On 10 Dec, 2018, at 2:30 pm, Jendaipou Palmei <jendaipoupalmei@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > As suggested, we changed the NIC buffer size to 1 packet for the
> simulation and also tried these different buffer sizes: 10, 50 and 75.
> >
> > The default NIC buffer size in ns-3 is 100 packets.
> >
> > Additionally, we also enabled BQL and tried.
> >
> > We see that the link utilization gets significantly affected when we
> keep the NIC buffer size small.
>
> Yes, that's what I'd expect to see from Reno-type congestion control, and
> is one good reason why alternatives to Reno were developed (eg. Compound,
> CUBIC, BBR).  You may wish to explore what happens with Compound and CUBIC,
> once your basic measurement methodology has matured.
>
> I would suggest using BQL, since it's available and represents a realistic
> deployment.
>
> If you were to add TCP (or parallel UDP/ICMP) RTT measurements, you'd see
> that the peak latency was correspondingly improved by removing the dumb
> FIFO hidden within the NIC.  I estimate that a 100-packet buffer accounts
> for about 120ms of latency at 10Mbps, which should definitely be visible on
> such a graph (being almost 250% of your baseline 50ms latency).
>
> Since latency is the main point of adding AQM, I'm a little surprised that
> you haven't already produced graphs of that sort.  They would have
> identified this problem much earlier.
>
> At present you only have COBALT graphs with the small NIC buffer.  For a
> fair comparison, Codel and PIE graphs should be (re-)produced with the same
> conditions.  The older graphs made with the large NIC buffer are
> potentially misleading, especially with respect to throughput.
>
>  - Jonathan Morton
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-15 19:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-22 13:57 Jendaipou Palmei
2018-11-22 15:32 ` Dave Taht
2018-11-23 10:52   ` Jendaipou Palmei
2018-11-23 16:05     ` Dave Taht
2018-11-23 16:43       ` Dave Taht
2018-11-23 17:13         ` Jonathan Morton
2018-11-24  2:59           ` Jonathan Morton
2018-11-25  6:22             ` Jendaipou Palmei
2018-11-27 14:10               ` Jendaipou Palmei
2018-11-27 14:36                 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-11-30 11:53                   ` Jendaipou Palmei
2018-11-30 11:58                     ` Jonathan Morton
2018-12-04 10:31                       ` Jendaipou Palmei
2018-12-04 14:39                         ` Dave Taht
2018-12-04 15:02                         ` Jonathan Morton
2018-12-04 15:20                           ` Dave Taht
2018-12-05 12:23                             ` Jendaipou Palmei
2018-12-05 14:23                               ` Jonathan Morton
2018-12-06 17:36                                 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-12-09  8:37                                   ` Jendaipou Palmei
2018-12-09 13:21                                     ` Jonathan Morton
2018-12-10 12:30                                       ` Jendaipou Palmei
2018-12-10 15:15                                         ` Jonathan Morton
2018-12-15 19:06                                           ` Shefali Gupta [this message]
2018-12-15 20:10                                             ` Dave Taht
2018-12-21 10:37                                               ` Shefali Gupta
2018-12-21 12:48                                                 ` Jonathan Morton
2019-01-21 11:35                                                   ` Shefali Gupta
2019-01-21 12:57                                                     ` Jonathan Morton
2019-01-23 16:19                                                       ` Shefali Gupta
2019-01-23 16:23                                                         ` Jonathan Morton
2019-01-23 17:27                                                           ` Shefali Gupta
2019-01-25  8:35                                                             ` Shefali Gupta
2019-01-25  9:16                                                               ` Jonathan Morton
2019-01-25 14:48                                                                 ` Shefali Gupta
2019-01-25 15:07                                                                   ` Jonathan Morton

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