I agree that bufferbloat awareness is a good thing. The issue I have is the approach - ask consumers to "detect it" and replace a device with a new one, that may or may not, meet all the needs of the users.

Better is that network engineers "design bloat out" from the beginning starting by properly sizing queues to service jitter, and for WiFi, to also enable aggregation techniques that minimize TXOP consumption.

Bob

On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 6:57 AM Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com> wrote:


On Oct 10, 2022, at 8:05 PM, Bob McMahon via Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> I think conflating bufferbloat with latency misses the subtle point in that
> bufferbloat is a measurement in memory units more than a measurement in
> time units.

Yes, but... I am going to praise this video, even as I encourage all the techies to be sure that they have the units correct.

I've been yammering about the evils of latency/excess queueing for 10 years on my blog, in forums, etc. I have not achieved anywhere near the notoriety of this video (almost a third of a million views).

I am delighted that there's an engaging, mass-market Youtube video that makes the case that bufferbloat even exists. 

Rich

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