From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ej1-x62f.google.com (mail-ej1-x62f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71AE73B29D for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2025 04:26:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ej1-x62f.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-ac345bd8e13so301613366b.0 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2025 01:26:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1742545616; x=1743150416; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=AZHEJckTKFmwcoFgtoTukbI/8x5gs2+v4o6+Dwbhlko=; b=Kwg2JJeAsUj95pa9Yq7BRneknIqVP90KDzRrw7f4eH9/leWaLt8C7L2iUWSeq39isL lHmEgfGBjhDLp7e+fCFIxuBSerI3YgRi7VZDtdWaxlDqgHnv9wOH84ahZD0Vjht9Cs2c raC3ANIMpD91z2wq73LkFaN647FfY/jakFqC2OBci6HCjt1U4MZA1qMXrTDTNvpDuibc afsUSyhrk2bH27M4g260Xi6S1eMbyhNs7ywpuosLPFbUHED4vQut2WsZ7cL2CGNZTjq0 yOMvVRhwVExeWGFAjS4on2rqLbj2QbVg8QXO5uxrGAwwC0C79ui665jEuzg4Ib6zzV7V ID6g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1742545616; x=1743150416; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=AZHEJckTKFmwcoFgtoTukbI/8x5gs2+v4o6+Dwbhlko=; b=iKJ/zQLYmZej/A3OIpQhP6JpXHlBfHg4bONeVxxJXgEU5+FU+IvxWC0Lq2da5nxrYi AalKvlLAdW8sBtx0khmpVTskQefhegRGYPXC81pIMYCFniR51B/5iMzqYyPCBDaLsFhe CgNIVvv05LiLAeGqOcAJMK7KITjMSnGMtLgowbykQyNq+OMXqI1xdMiXuxjGG/ZVbWEG CFaWpPol3z/5hxGdBIqorHX5Vg6/01SFDEIyKd9CtPevTFtoQuddBuCBDf6ax+IrSBTv NSRFsX2uCvF2T3XAXazF7VI6uj4lSf9qZ+6k2/fQ/EqpFNHt7Fls7WFw4D2tRsPSzzw+ v5/g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyBj2BeI9BiJyURId8irRgnZLBha78bs4NPFxIXL07jO18e9SZk h0WqUGscW8pLfR1V7Ws9UVSrX66y9tODt+Rul5hmv/qimMBzFDwdXS5a5qdqxEj0oEzxhG6LGrX SMqM1k9523M246MzbUshAEF7h+fc= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncs98c6qYT4grCn+BHV0W16OwB63T27b/UvMCcZ05XQeq01ucKCSipHBHfemeWF /MSYAt7zD1feDZwkjewraGA70kPypj/7Fby//x+x4l//MkET4d6kzsYKOc0ld0LV2qIdZKFJbPd 04CnHzKqO0IJVDnbbBrtu7KbLk2I8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGtkZkzowTaUooYFGCXJJDdJqbmSv2IItLEj8IIAxHAewgvSeXy3vX+sFXi0QOjx1RDjaG+COaAbUv11YyBEAc= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:8692:b0:ac2:a1fd:551e with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-ac3f2560055mr173121566b.55.1742545615812; Fri, 21 Mar 2025 01:26:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7FBEC0CA-162E-48A2-81D6-97CDD2F63EEC@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7FBEC0CA-162E-48A2-81D6-97CDD2F63EEC@gmail.com> From: Frantisek Borsik Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 09:27:56 +0100 X-Gm-Features: AQ5f1Jq7tJ3MsPMXr91gWNSw0gryI2wQRnIAhzqjD2EkHPH6P2VrYQescJqcZVM Message-ID: To: Jonathan Morton , jordan@inacomptc.com, Jeff Hansen , contact@daryllswer.com Cc: Cake List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006f7fa70630d604a1" Subject: Re: [Cake] CAKE is going to be deployed on Alta Labs any day now! X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 08:26:57 -0000 --0000000000006f7fa70630d604a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Happy to see that! Thanks, guys. Adding Jeff , Alta Labs CTO - Darryl has a suggestion how to push this further: "Maybe they can add both FQ_CoDel and CAKE with BQL support? How's hardware-offloading of FQ_CoDel looking on these =E2=80=9Cprosumer=E2=80=9D equipment these days? I haven't kept up ov= er a year on this topic." All the best, Frank Frantisek (Frank) Borsik https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 iMessage, mobile: +420775230885 Skype: casioa5302ca frantisek.borsik@gmail.com On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 3:44=E2=80=AFAM Jonathan Morton wrote: > > On 19 Mar, 2025, at 12:01 am, Frantisek Borsik via Cake < > cake@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > > > Should be pushed through production in day or two and they will be > talking about it on https://streamyard.com/watch/ubYm2AffWkYi this > Wednesday, March 19, at 1PM EST / 12PM CST / 11AM MST / 10AM PST > > I joined the stream, and was able to ask about the throughput they were > getting with CAKE on their hardware. This is just for the "Route 10" > rather than their APs, and they reported getting about 2.5Gbps throughput > with CAKE enabled. They do correctly note that the hardware-accelerated > forwarding path is disabled for the interface where CAKE is turned on. > > Supporting 2.5Gbps is pretty good I think, and should be sufficient to > handle all practical Internet subscriptions that are likely to require > bufferbloat mitigation. For comparison, on the same call they claimed > about 800Mbps throughput for acting as a WireGuard tunnel endpoint. > > - Jonathan Morton --0000000000006f7fa70630d604a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Happy to see that! Thanks, guys.

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Adding Jeff, Alta Labs CTO - Darryl has a suggestio= n how to push this further: "Maybe they can add both FQ_CoDel and CAKE= with BQL support? How's hardware-offloading of FQ_CoDel looking on the= se =E2=80=9Cprosumer=E2=80=9D equipment these days? I haven't kept up o= ver a year on this topic."

All the best,<= /div>

Frank

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On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 3:44=E2=80=AFAM Jonathan Morton <= ;chromatix99@gma= il.com> wrote:
> On 19 Mar, 2025, at 12= :01 am, Frantisek Borsik via Cake <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> Should be pushed through production in day or two and they will be tal= king about it on https://streamyard.com/watch/ubYm2AffWkYi= this Wednesday,=C2=A0 March 19, at 1PM EST / 12PM CST / 11AM MST / 10A= M PST

I joined the stream, and was able to ask about the throughput they were get= ting with CAKE on their hardware.=C2=A0 This is just for the "Route 10= " rather than their APs, and they reported getting about 2.5Gbps throu= ghput with CAKE enabled. They do correctly note that the hardware-accelerat= ed forwarding path is disabled for the interface where CAKE is turned on.
Supporting 2.5Gbps is pretty good I think, and should be sufficient to hand= le all practical Internet subscriptions that are likely to require bufferbl= oat mitigation.=C2=A0 For comparison, on the same call they claimed about 8= 00Mbps throughput for acting as a WireGuard tunnel endpoint.

=C2=A0- Jonathan Morton
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