From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf1-f53.google.com (mail-lf1-f53.google.com [209.85.167.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C253C3B29E for ; Sun, 31 May 2020 12:39:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf1-f53.google.com with SMTP id r125so2500547lff.13 for ; Sun, 31 May 2020 09:39:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5PqIVDbhb0kvHEtWyNP2CPL9vTOPs2f6j0ZqwNtB5NI=; b=nBVL8UXfRNB54h+Y33qz+7c9ULZlFeuCNwwyxzLh1o/RIwPcTkFeoTPXGObYmJswRc vJ/aKD6PRZrNR5Z3tOlepNJNLyY/bJpU8n6LOSFnYIAaHoy5KiscwWRxO88HLHx1VWZi +aImYZcIBuV69UmSTHi00Yb/krpnqE4RZcsSXLgU4NZTw9o8opIm8xuY4B3qyk27CbSf 7+QIcDWRvQjQrMy3TAvj32XnCurC9SKm8ay5s3B7cQTDDmDRnsAkpndiglPX1kpB9Vj2 V8V/0MlinUDr3FrLfGA8fq3VdS5qqvCKvsMgsIuMh7AkKWqTTD0TGglGyejDQ6vhG/HD IZxg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530bpcRXGR96E4CGtfPKQeVkdgZXypP+3LQkBxL34GcbSX8a+I1Q WbQgsCi/KqTxzC6YnxGrgfwPVvigJNkV6ghVU7xPZUFy1FU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyzPX4dhLTlPcYZ+j2ha5BFWJyt0HPBAFzUqe/ks+NhR7+eQb+8ZIjweAUvFgf8/XP2dr5EugWMuG1WNND/8E0= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:4562:: with SMTP id k2mr9374564lfm.5.1590943145576; Sun, 31 May 2020 09:39:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5136DAB5-B975-4D36-948D-A5A4167A8FC7@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> <30B03A82-420A-4A9A-899B-8549692AF9DC@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> <2BE61C3D-EED3-405A-A7AF-BA7B7B5B8B03@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <2BE61C3D-EED3-405A-A7AF-BA7B7B5B8B03@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> From: John Yates Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 12:38:54 -0400 Message-ID: To: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant Cc: Cake List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [Cake] Playing with ingredients = ruined the CAKE X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 16:39:07 -0000 Kevin, I am curious how this effort relates to Dave Taht's point in his May 20th "not really huge on EF landing where it does in wifi" thread. /john