From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk0-x22f.google.com (mail-qk0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50D093B2A4 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2017 07:04:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qk0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id d125so32024316qkc.12 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2017 04:04:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=LSxmJ0QAlDeqlkizDQD9I6doJ8B7k2k0B3cXBQEXo+4=; b=uIR4SgTK8Wyn4ntzZ3h6nsNYDad0F7EE/Ui7JBBxTaM8FrXk3USNY4Y3c/+Zom4E7W QM227VAMWlMiOdwdU4q+UfQtnTgaESjnCUgTok5CwgZjnGdI3QUYfqzPgbXvzO90pDAL aQewDgf8QtTDHs7KKxeHnsEqDVPl4jwKLy2Gfp9xTboXEWLZWn79xIMyDkrwAI5Uj5+3 LmF4m3PNnR0Aas0S2WvW4W7f2s616NUGM9Bf2Fj9EOCSWEdAcuNzQm1dcdU6w5YywwpB sPPGmIb2WOhfkQeT67cuArW9inkcZ71QI60gCDQWHTS5T3Azu2fd4vtQrYnA11vXXmIj 2/rw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=LSxmJ0QAlDeqlkizDQD9I6doJ8B7k2k0B3cXBQEXo+4=; b=EpucmleiZYWx7Z2WbF+FEKhTIeOIws3Sdf9tHnZw8Fb2ZJpbsXngMa+f7bYuzNb+Lj hk205m5Y7IyaPMWTG3U0Qu97dTUxIoFKu76a2XimUkLAy14gv1DfDqY0cWby378Chem+ Sb3fATyiggMZ9RGz01IHq73jQt/oUZZGEpjlVIGtohgLmBWSPspT9LjoG1zj7Ryx4Bez 1y6ejUsOuxJXcRvZUqGH7AqIl2DVeG/BSu9uqmIG2Xkh8BFKpA454az1BIspM7voT2ig WrhfZNUZFrl+rJxqU2fvZPzSYjOaM+KX1IIe50byX8NdckNm/zFpiseOZ+Yp9ucGAW/a t7UA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX6yXQp7diLWirmvPws8TmemjPdw4Bjp6n3MhLNoPfK1ub4G7Uih h7xak2jowYmickfLnr8+ZIw14BZ31ILzTgVy2pc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMYi2d/WnFJckKGpMg8EHkXQP8m8/m0xh7lULABPCQkN7bM92WhpFsiiIGdMIXBnFMXjeouuuLAX3UZ5D3OM6A0= X-Received: by 10.55.192.221 with SMTP id v90mr54493023qkv.52.1511784280935; Mon, 27 Nov 2017 04:04:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.102.179 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Nov 2017 04:04:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.102.179 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Nov 2017 04:04:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <7B914FA7-38A6-4113-9B2C-D6246873676A@gmail.com> <1493791193941.83458@telenor.com> From: Jonathan Morton Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 14:04:40 +0200 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: erik.taraldsen@telenor.com, Cake List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11479aa40ad478055ef5b57e" Subject: Re: [Cake] Recomended HW to run cake and fq_codel? X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 12:04:41 -0000 --001a11479aa40ad478055ef5b57e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" My pet suggestion here is to represent latency as its inverse, "responsiveness" with units of Hz. This has the dual advantages of bigger numbers being better, and the figures being directly comparable with framerates. As you say, the methodology will need to be very carefully specified, so that we get a meaningful measurement that's hard to game. - Jonathan Morton --001a11479aa40ad478055ef5b57e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My pet suggestion here is to represent latency as its invers= e, "responsiveness" with units of Hz.=C2=A0 This has the dual adv= antages of bigger numbers being better, and the figures being directly comp= arable with framerates.

As you say, the methodology will need to be very carefully s= pecified, so that we get a meaningful measurement that's hard to game.<= /p>

- Jonathan Morton

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