From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt0-x231.google.com (mail-qt0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 858B63B2A4 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 21:19:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt0-x231.google.com with SMTP id e2so14096024qti.0 for ; Wed, 06 Dec 2017 18:19:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=AoZfgEAj+iV9BROp+RqFD20373eJufudi09vcReXPjI=; b=ioootRtAEFq9FmWkNg5kOsPJrM+CdLA95wCf/ALwSIeuDvjlt3AAkJsFqlrVkUUuGK 7K2c1w/iVvNjfTYVc5bgr6yFaJJexF3tSZFxlH282IMLaugoEp1Y3jYeK22CtQ8ONB53 lVg1g5kv2qQ7CZCB9X8WMNrw61BdLaQsAU9avmNzBwVf1K9se8UqqnH2BFQrwRe4VD+w 6FfKF4xQcvwldjuCkEJ2a4zPeLw/2yY9RoAT+8SfKSMgGSc0QZBDUkyxrFh/aW3s5EpT DC8C5BzmbZfhlA85xzpowS/TAjCKfVrc6dSoRbkQnAC/wllpuUVbrHkZUj230oSG17By phxg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=AoZfgEAj+iV9BROp+RqFD20373eJufudi09vcReXPjI=; b=s4ZjVDsEq0JCm4wJM8/Uk8mDCo4awUDi9jLkGD6ZLZDqpUB+cFzpAYtdCFob7xQyKy RFLhXMzgCs0CDYwIefmrYioWabIjzsEo0tb/SfJ5KY3w+xdYx6zQT923TxLy9XbUy/jh k1KICRh0ZHFmkEpXfbDNtDDzjG5oNhvF3gJOHH+F5P9q5WBGOT7u3Wgxql3cBm86sRAd D8LJoVfNKUiGJMD1MjoN4F2rG/adgj1R/4IxtTt2bqykrIrr6w4xjza2F2uaIjsiEhC5 jov541Eiu50jBmf2aj2Gmln7T7JuPAwkpT85kuaHodZrCAM9L3tfx4/P2+nFLgzP3UK5 /ebQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mLkXOZKnVBCd2MVX6VAANl+3517xr0vNHa1+1CexTx3rYAMODP4 7DZcH5XvI8pi1Wml5ymXf4zLBOrQ9OtsyK5X6xI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMbpynVV60hReIBqSD3a9yXuBh9b1eHEkzFWqVYWPx6TllnzePrOVV3bfE1dmyWwqjWjiH964SiAnEQ6U4LXhc8= X-Received: by 10.200.22.39 with SMTP id p36mr7809969qtj.336.1512613185105; Wed, 06 Dec 2017 18:19:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.102.179 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 18:19:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.102.179 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 18:19:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87h8t3d0ox.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> References: <1512525519.21401.11.camel@gmail.com> <1512525682.21401.13.camel@gmail.com> <87h8t3d0ox.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> From: Jonathan Morton Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 04:19:44 +0200 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dave_T=C3=A4ht?= Cc: Georgios Amanakis , Cake List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045d6cd294b504055fb6b382" Subject: Re: [Cake] [Fwd: Re: RHODIUM - nuking blue (for testing)] X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2017 02:19:45 -0000 --f403045d6cd294b504055fb6b382 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > It would be nice to have a test showing blue being useful. To do that, you would need to have a saturating unresponsive load, such as a UDP flood, which drives Cake's queue to the memory limit. Even then, I suspect you wouldn't see much difference in the traffic stats, but there might be a CPU advantage since the hard-drop path would be exercised less. - Jonathan Morton --f403045d6cd294b504055fb6b382 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> It would be nice to have a test showing blue being usef= ul.

To do that, you would need to have a saturating unresponsive= load, such as a UDP flood, which drives Cake's queue to the memory lim= it.=C2=A0 Even then, I suspect you wouldn't see much difference in the = traffic stats, but there might be a CPU advantage since the hard-drop path = would be exercised less.

- Jonathan Morton

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