From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt0-x22c.google.com (mail-qt0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75A703B2A4 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 04:16:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id f2so15825394qtj.4 for ; Thu, 07 Dec 2017 01:16:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=e7crIwsTiWy4kRcY7HvZJdpQquIHGzcHPZznxPIg+c0=; b=kJ2eb+cmq+Ply76cOtcC5Ym3QrXF27GY4ySyY9fBIpg7syBLsvSqmjqkQ+zoTrqOhq ZEG1pBD2N12CShJ7mm9ScyKvKFjtBqwXzEOVFs+16seJGUri+DP9W7oGxv28EhDiPeAs 5tu/E4MYGgtvP95/vw1DmvB9GYb/FYKjyclSXrmFZHBGg9YRZWoxxV09jaSJW4p/yC9W 41gG0Bu9Bd04DWC/lEOrtvLRtrmrGiiYhyT6iGqqCQpWwUXWPeqGLaUeIYSTcREiqM3w 2l+FV+8T9yqQ9dnq4VAljhNyAtZoTXnEszsiVe09cfdi5S9BhQGZFjSCRlJZJxiJluCz ssog== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=e7crIwsTiWy4kRcY7HvZJdpQquIHGzcHPZznxPIg+c0=; b=PCcVApe9l0NowpGodpW7ydqcsetIgDM4PzwA41XNCQicWFd6xIKOpQaAmCL1/pq8iF crPBAcN///84uCp8KVMAE92FL/8oF8QSl0uM8lSSDjlWyCPj8wjfOQEe++X4cnbkYZ6L Zg18WN9mtd1p5/OEYVs2bmodudUjLbSPfkOCaHm/naQmqgBELU1dJJgZck5KeDsS432O jUy8EEagq7bVRN7AIH+GiJmysA7WQX2FrlAUTjCskGti4Mp0q2q1dtLHp2fTck8SAtsJ V/JJ5VYb+87JeZ9v6iqo7GBbv7Qctq6knfIMGwbAE9a8KDxmCCa1ypOBugmTtPprgMe8 59nw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mKL1gZ7hKxagsbb5fFA+LZlrv+a94UocV/54NTsrH9xl/zbXIx2 n+lkmqZrshFoWA8r0SzZD8yHowchGQ0oZIFTYjc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMbjxzOxox6YlgkiU0v44mzU6T45GsXtnhi36cvCJWH2giogdoQtMpVrvnRhhzR9fQ74AkptiMzVWKimxVy354g= X-Received: by 10.200.63.208 with SMTP id v16mr8650324qtk.249.1512638162994; Thu, 07 Dec 2017 01:16:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.102.179 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 01:16:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.102.179 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 01:16:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20897949-7EBC-42C9-ABCA-44D7D5CDCE01@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> References: <1512525519.21401.11.camel@gmail.com> <1512525682.21401.13.camel@gmail.com> <87h8t3d0ox.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <20897949-7EBC-42C9-ABCA-44D7D5CDCE01@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> From: Jonathan Morton Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 11:16:02 +0200 Message-ID: To: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Dave_T=C3=A4ht?= , Cake List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c14988a610d47055fbc8496" Subject: Re: [Cake] [Fwd: Re: RHODIUM - nuking blue (for testing)] X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2017 09:16:03 -0000 --94eb2c14988a610d47055fbc8496 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Smells like the NAS and OneDrive are using nonstandard, and at least partially noncompliant TCP stacks. Did the ack stream carry ECE flags? But yes, that is exactly the sort of abuse that the BLUE portion of COBALT is meant to cope with. - Jonathan Morton --94eb2c14988a610d47055fbc8496 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Smells like the NAS and OneDrive are using nonstandard, and = at least partially noncompliant TCP stacks.=C2=A0 Did the ack stream carry = ECE flags?

But yes, that is exactly the sort of abuse that the BLUE por= tion of COBALT is meant to cope with.

- Jonathan Morton

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