From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ua1-x933.google.com (mail-ua1-x933.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::933]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2ABF3B2A4; Thu, 12 Jan 2023 22:31:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ua1-x933.google.com with SMTP id u3so5009792uae.0; Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:31:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Q5e2rP03gevOj9S+JfMdpAgciQIEt9kx/ReGfrngrtM=; b=kLn3wbeXiksE8sqJpqXGdcS6hLuER9oSGWY6Fq6eYFyGqdZueCwKVUk8mjfANPj8Yu 40mA/Xmkex3Vpp4j+ZBAAXZPg6ZCK+U/slKt2qLA/SQaG/UFQ9SZ7n5OLcF01QVVT/pV PbdWdDlYfFMOb2g33zNmuQXJ6uCeqqPd1/09Uci8uJB34jLWmFQYY/nF3xlVXPw8hUrh tPD5o1S/kjnVfippNlHRPlgleFgTIj0mSMZIXl5UJi+zvlyMObrR6w3sy4kGx04JYTgT LbGTNg19vkLvuuyGD7JJ1CjyasucyjecL/fVgSU0uMlcQkpbotDl36pM47+kQ1xcThtv humQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Q5e2rP03gevOj9S+JfMdpAgciQIEt9kx/ReGfrngrtM=; b=3/XUvSrWvkRvAqlMdBSwHR3/0LOI+TYTsxBigOSn2XjRpjZ2Wy2EGAojkJip6b+Fey gkgGUYYLllBiU5QB9560efUPJPd/LrlSSYjyFAcy0P4ZUfRzBQKzvqsVj+abUh1sbfQv HY6xDbroF6QKCwk3v7tf2WCwaJMvrn/BQJuH/0uDMGZ3aXoIA2cWE+SpdmdpiLtU0Kum zoPiVitZA3EcbCyisFcmZ5jJbn0SyhVd/0q+QbZW2GFI6PBsPkSNtSlQnpDXnRsg6EEZ 3F28uUyw8+fdwttBohapcgfLjgDOeuvRvJI0Jg70mbpUe5zYBpHUPU62fTkdoTVQaRgH vpBA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2ko3iKeIbxkfOILPgkip4cY1TJqDuo2iykMSbTYx18FZ3QBdYIfI dopjB35wmftTOHFiA4sY4g8VptvIpLeFQYsaKhk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXupJa8+4DZ+/hfyEavhZRZGrymaIy0PghCfkQF4yNHjOGgIRzTtrlY6qeq70BLRNh2LqijUaODtzDCAx4WmWys= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:2005:0:b0:5f4:34e9:f5a4 with SMTP id v5-20020ab02005000000b005f434e9f5a4mr125075uak.51.1673580708324; Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:31:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <89D796E75967416B9723211C183A8396@SRA6> <3696AEA5409D4303ABCBC439727A5E40@SRA6> In-Reply-To: From: "Luis A. Cornejo" Message-ID: To: "MORTON JR., AL" Cc: Dave Taht , Jay Moran , Cake List , IETF IPPM WG , Rpm , bloat , "dickroy@alum.mit.edu" , libreqos Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009f69e005f21cdf80" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 18:18:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cake] [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] the grinch meets cloudflare'schristmas present X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2023 03:31:49 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2023 21:30:24 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2023 03:31:49 -0000 --0000000000009f69e005f21cdf80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Al, I am not aware of the payload generation. -Luis On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 11:43 AM MORTON JR., AL wrote: > Dave and Luis, > > Do you know if any of these tools are using ~random payloads, to defeat > compression? > > UDPST has a CLI option: > (m) -X Randomize datagram payload (else zeroes) > > When I used this option testing shipboard satellite access, download was > about 115kbps. > > Al > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dave Taht > > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 11:12 AM > > To: Luis A. Cornejo > > Cc: Jay Moran ; Cake List ; > IETF IPPM > > WG ; MORTON JR., AL ; Rpm > > ; bloat ; > > dickroy@alum.mit.edu; libreqos > > Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] the grinch meets > > cloudflare'schristmas present > > > > Either starlink has vastly improved, or the test is way off in this case. > --0000000000009f69e005f21cdf80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Al,

I am not aware of the pa= yload generation.

-Luis

On Thu, Jan 12, 2= 023 at 11:43 AM MORTON JR., AL <acmo= rton@att.com> wrote:
Dave and Luis,

Do you know if any of these tools are using ~random payloads, to defeat com= pression?

UDPST has a CLI option:
(m)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -X=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Randomize datag= ram payload (else zeroes)

When I used this option testing shipboard satellite access, download was ab= out 115kbps.

Al

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 11:12 AM
> To: Luis A. Cornejo <luis.a.cornejo@gmail.com>
> Cc: Jay Moran <jay@= tp.org>; Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>; IETF IPPM
> WG <ippm@ietf.or= g>; MORTON JR., AL <acmorton@att.com>; Rpm
> <rpm= @lists.bufferbloat.net>; bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>;
> dickroy@alum= .mit.edu; libreqos <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] the grinch meets
> cloudflare'schristmas present
>
> Either starlink has vastly improved, or the test is way off in this ca= se.
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