From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qv1-xf2d.google.com (mail-qv1-xf2d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FDB13CB35; Sat, 4 Apr 2020 12:27:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qv1-xf2d.google.com with SMTP id ef12so5228911qvb.11; Sat, 04 Apr 2020 09:27:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=OO/Aegw2hcXjCIRu3563cN0dvMZtYnQb0GAoAX6tZOM=; b=KSOc3NEWclZa+WMirgonTQnDWkvz1CVxX8AzipY9NrP7J7PTv2BrYHslAAzJCi73E+ mAmb81x0AF37SeEY8C0DJ/NEFnJ70UmV4iEJU0Ovd1eVqImQnaIF2r4DBUz07PszhyQi yub7xnURlTEfdEF7M3KdAaE0+QMfqK0EZ0wGUZgkFSqHkckSP2LzAlj+q9O/bgPv/1RH HAuqu1FoP92BakA+UngqFbecnZy6MHhgNI1EzKrIcU8BHvLgjOJcDqVZ8OgGgQ+pirCp jqY99oPxKRHScRM+PPkJQpbjpZz7I4nnUf+2KTBRkVf6F1FMqgrVQM8eV+yFPJVBtTHc /GPQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=OO/Aegw2hcXjCIRu3563cN0dvMZtYnQb0GAoAX6tZOM=; b=Ncca5qCMe3n3G/Co4z63ERcplK00iF1XjHocxBpajcLkgZi5dvrcXDyzy9+ADvlclF eEQe6eo/Z8IxoHhybOYM+G0MUIZmDbg9FsOcaPmI5nFQzlVqTYxIHU84FQqM3HJnfOda fdPH0q3p0+2Y8z9H4GscqONBMfcZPcd/Cs0NDHRyqrQr6FYp9gAqF4xgQI8BvUBMf4em u1JI7u6al3QgyphEqjF4ppT9XeF4VHpvE8YyCIH1ieMwIsxDFQXKltC3Kc2aonqjf9TH PVOdbjWIZXjf0dMZXOMU6175AQ8uGdkJOCz6Ve82nrhWE5KLddtYJMfLNn6omRVIThrF uniA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuY8NBHJAEbAqc1CZD5zAG9cs/UGgRmF2NFOQB6cA8eVqrWBcXMk vPAq9atayE7dB38bgcW/bW5qLSfD/qH34JZSH/k= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKM8T0JbrGQF0fY4mtS6M9LOuNgf9/IuA/n0dz+epvgtPLDcrKmqd7tNJgv5rwTrOoziD+AYjiEgezHncLj5M8= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:c187:: with SMTP id n7mr13930411qvh.240.1586017643673; Sat, 04 Apr 2020 09:27:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1586011622.632930657@apps.rackspace.com> In-Reply-To: From: Aaron Wood Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:27:12 -0700 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: Cake List , "David P. Reed" , Make-Wifi-fast , bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000423b6505a27982d5" Subject: Re: [Cake] [Bloat] New board that looks interesting X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2020 16:27:24 -0000 --000000000000423b6505a27982d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The comparison of chipset performance link (to OpemWRT forums) that went out had this chip, the J4105 as the fastest. Able to do a gigabit with cake (nearly able to do it in both directions). I think this has replaced the apu2 as the board I=E2=80=99m going with as m= y edge router. On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:10 AM Dave Taht wrote: > Historically I've found the "Celeron" chips rather weak, but it's just > a brand. I haven't the foggiest idea how well this variant will > perform. > > The intel ethernet chips are best of breed in linux, however. It's > been my hope that the 211 variant with the timed networking support > would show up in the field (sch_etx) so we could fiddle with that, > (the apu2s aren't using that version) but I cannot for the life of me > remember the right keywords to look it up at the moment. this feature > lets you program when a packet emerges from the driver and is sort of > a whole new ballgame when it comes to scheduling - there hasn't been > an aqm designed for it, and you can do fq by playing tricks with the > sent timestamp. > > All the other features look rather nice on this board. > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 7:47 AM David P. Reed wrote: > > > > Thanks! I ordered one just now. In my experience, this company does > rather neat stuff. Their XMOS based microphone array (ReSpeaker) is reall= y > useful. What's the state of play in Linux/OpenWRT for Intel 9560 > capabilities regarding AQM? > > > > On Saturday, April 4, 2020 12:12am, "Aaron Wood" > said: > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Cake mailing list > > > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake > > > https://www.seeedstudio.com/ODYSSEY-X86J4105800-p-4445.html > > > > > > quad-core Celeron J4105 1.5-2.5 GHz x64 > > > 8GB Ram > > > 2x i211t intel ethernet controllers > > > intel 9560 802.11ac (wave2) wifi/bluetooth chipset > > > intel built-in graphics > > > onboard ARM Cortex-M0 and RPi & Arduino headers > > > m.2 and PCIe adapters > > > <$200 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bloat mailing list > > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > > > -- > Make Music, Not War > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > http://www.teklibre.com > Tel: 1-831-435-0729 > --=20 - Sent from my iPhone. --000000000000423b6505a27982d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The comparison of chipset performance link (to OpemW= RT forums) that went out had this chip, the J4105 as the fastest.=C2=A0 Abl= e to do a gigabit with cake (nearly able to do it in both directions).

I think this has repla= ced the apu2 as the board I=E2=80=99m going with as my edge router.

On = Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:10 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
Historically I've found the "Celeron" chips rather weak= , but it's just
a brand. I haven't the foggiest idea how well this variant will
perform.

The intel ethernet chips are best of breed in linux, however. It's
been my hope that the 211 variant with the timed networking support
would show up in the field (sch_etx) so we could fiddle with that,
(the apu2s aren't using that version) but I cannot for the life of me remember the right keywords to look it up at the moment. this feature
lets you program when a packet emerges from the driver and is sort of
a whole new ballgame when it comes to scheduling - there hasn't been an aqm designed for it, and you can do fq by playing tricks with the
sent timestamp.

All the other features look rather nice on this board.

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 7:47 AM David P. Reed <dpreed@deepplum.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks! I ordered one just now. In my experience, this company does ra= ther neat stuff. Their XMOS based microphone array (ReSpeaker) is really us= eful. What's the state of play in Linux/OpenWRT for Intel 9560 capabili= ties regarding AQM?
>
> On Saturday, April 4, 2020 12:12am, "Aaron Wood" <woody77@gmail.com> s= aid:
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cake mailing list
> > C= ake@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake=
> > https://www.seeedstudio.com/ODY= SSEY-X86J4105800-p-4445.html
> >
> > quad-core Celeron J4105 1.5-2.5 GHz x64
> > 8GB Ram
> > 2x i211t intel ethernet controllers
> > intel 9560 802.11ac (wave2) wifi/bluetooth chipset
> > intel built-in graphics
> > onboard ARM Cortex-M0 and RPi & Arduino headers
> > m.2 and PCIe adapters
> > <$200
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat mailing list
> Bloat= @lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat


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