From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F3473B29E for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 08:55:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id b189so51928wmd.5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 05:55:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=xDjSOMvXPdYc32/shgImSLVyuCbAmojfxxa2lTDOsdo=; b=qSTuqe1fkaJ9YXAWhVsZyXvNyImTKpUx2MPtuqkbXA4+WQc+YWqDol1a+fIeWKQQQY rUeoH3nh5VmPwQFGoaM6xSX2JyFGDtJ1AszmVlIi1WaGRR8NJgXQ822qSia4zU6J7ZVt rQy0QIExM5QoDHo9j+NnR87NJP+RlPMK0kZge+1RifWfiEQhteFNNKvvc//VeM7MnofS Pfhj76hMosUsgsbxnhkIyHJdxEUI5ua/ADR15JdQhc3q7iJHsdsHuG8kPLRVyFR3Zwtn /2Owg35C+xgd5qnv5rxzvzHW2JsyWDgYsuqeN7AZ6ZpFZJ23ay7aRX7cDFGESfOlHcFJ iHMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xDjSOMvXPdYc32/shgImSLVyuCbAmojfxxa2lTDOsdo=; b=r87Bubr2e/5ITig4p04Txf8z8daq4Yt1LiveONzkqmhDy9NDXSFS0xoLiC6SeXi+KB Lbj5lnc1qajPifL2bpiPApHFDUL/GcUdPzTQYS1vETFPZgtszle70zWnW4fnuneIqBfD S0cVbYHv2bhNz7fDWHl31+9ozYdSnceLxJAVat0MBJItzw442HVNAphak5MbVTNcJrm1 aUWVNZY0ix2y2A3MZMmW1AH9E1ImNB3sHeGuIml8V+BZGZgOmqExU6ob0Y78tpLdP4m+ vESZgM9+MchMkYgKCFYy3LPRVMfPudeQIF0asXkVn+LLw4yNMNPZHH7oV+mT9IZkRpCI 2SlQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX7ZpYZ/Rqrs53AnimqNG2DFNBIZJxMUqrTtJWrdQMl90Af7SGVp Zd7VA4Ulfx5auiCzihwc6nkMzOr6o580VsJ8Ovk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMa8wHf6U2E6Jm48PpxgvGS73yhl6haNpa9vTNhw4Ndi5qi2QRfuhOWXGrWsueXFmhYEasKzhli0RIGZ4j9IzF8= X-Received: by 10.223.161.210 with SMTP id v18mr1687639wrv.76.1510840503105; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 05:55:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.2.213 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 05:55:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.2.213 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 05:55:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Bret Towe Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 05:55:02 -0800 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: Cake List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045f2ee27ffbf0055e19f77e" Subject: Re: [Cake] ack filter rrul result at 1000/100 X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:55:04 -0000 --f403045f2ee27ffbf0055e19f77e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I have a docsis setup atm that is 300/7 On Nov 15, 2017 8:28 PM, "Dave Taht" wrote: > This is a much saner test result[1], showing about a 20% improvement > under the rrul_be test. I scaled back the topology to two instances of > cake on the middlebox, shaping to 100mbits on one side and 10mbits on > the other, and flipped filtering on or off. The win will improve more > with upload/download ratios of ever worse than 10/1, and the rrul is > not exactly a test of real traffic. > > What other ratios are out there, particularly in the dsl world? > > I can think of a few ways to get more acks to filter out, for example, > not using the "sparse flow optimization" for acks. > > [1] it also turned out my test target box, an odroid c2, couldn't push > more than 500mbits bidir in the first place. > > _______________________________________________ > Cake mailing list > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake > > --f403045f2ee27ffbf0055e19f77e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a docsis setup atm that is 300/7
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O= n Nov 15, 2017 8:28 PM, "Dave Taht" <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a much saner test result[1], showing a= bout a 20% improvement
under the rrul_be test. I scaled back the topology to two instances of
cake on the middlebox, shaping to 100mbits on one side and 10mbits on
the other, and flipped filtering on or off. The win will improve more
with upload/download ratios of ever worse than 10/1, and the rrul is
not exactly a test of real traffic.

What other ratios are out there, particularly in the dsl world?

I can think of a few ways to get more acks to filter out, for example,
not using the "sparse flow optimization" for acks.

[1] it also turned out my test target box, an odroid c2, couldn't push<= br> more than 500mbits bidir in the first place.

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