From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io0-x229.google.com (mail-io0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AF683B2A4 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 11:26:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io0-x229.google.com with SMTP id z19-v6so862870ioh.4 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 08:26:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=sczZ1Drdfq1+8zdYY3n48rDIPRUC5yE3fgQGQHBJA+o=; b=qhwnL/vmMntW328aVdrk/fVc3EzDwulwo0m49+YnPljci5lLsOTXrCs1L/zhjsd34J qknvNw3VN6qGY+diiO5ua1k7+97jJn2M6uS3VT8cLjAMkpn8DYbASd1WM8REveh6oc91 9TrI2CRi8HxlgxWe33aFkNnW9sG8qd+pOMG2AK/Jcgh+y2eBbGxgccjbgAXXy5TRi+Yt lcoktR1Yh5T8OP2A4LesF9NJPemrMNRMpAI1NppXIYHMAXuDqFjLaezc0tdsALn03Qwm 3VnM7DGRO2vTcJIX7zgb/F/4HpxJyXhbyvFbMH1WjATxV2hVNOBhChXmCZ8gxNzs7NcH bMGg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=sczZ1Drdfq1+8zdYY3n48rDIPRUC5yE3fgQGQHBJA+o=; b=DePBDCefa3viFZigC0CiihXuObPdwFZhAXX6lM8NCxWeUkvvHOnrNGF941Ofh2Dv/a pS3RM3UZOR94hJwoQZzRUz0cgYEXzlmQbR/d2CQ5HEAtt3soxWb8MmI+yLIBrDIFCjDI +H+NYca+zkcwMyiLHhLkkWSkoLaEuymkdRtDKhaYpvaNV05/sIFyqWRAJYjmGWnwWiBQ CnAC6wvj1cSmt4ZrL/pP3sjw7sV4vh6nEFKg9rRvdPOIXp1zrcc+duUA4f5khj4eYcIU +pC01tWB0YZr4EwH1eMYjLnwHBlYnE+iyMSp+fFKBIPHOZdz0SUOq0WDMzl5fGjNodHZ hulw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlHxSU0s/QJRDBv7DVsu5UbD9bS5m+rnvmVTr2aVwGPkILoJ60s6 u22cLWZmUVFClqpElwlahZZMKsB4Kv+YiZDMpYo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpdq4/IgZN8lp4xJogi68d7y6K5jx/WrqnEkuJj0Orut281klK8stsMtGxgNsYhfyok3C2t+kGWiZ6+B3FjWx2M= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:760c:: with SMTP id g12-v6mr8591425iom.276.1532359603770; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 08:26:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4C129A60-21D3-4B78-A764-DC8E2CD7E4DF@gmail.com> <6839ba220fe4399eba3620620515fc1dd801a509.camel@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jonas_M=C3=A5rtensson?= Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 17:26:32 +0200 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: ryan@mounce.com.au, Cake List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d9d9970571ac4539" Subject: Re: [Cake] inbound cake or fq_codel shaping fails on cable on netflix reno X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 15:26:44 -0000 --000000000000d9d9970571ac4539 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:56 PM Dave Taht wrote: > Great info, thx. Using this opportunity to rant about city-wid > networks, I'd have done something so different > than what the governments and ISPs have inflicted on us, substituting > redundancy for reliability. > > I'd have used bog standard ethernet over fiber instead of gpon. > Well, in Sweden 100% of ftth connections are standard active ethernet instead of gpon (and more than 60% of fixed connections are ftth). --000000000000d9d9970571ac4539 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon= , Jul 23, 2018 at 4:56 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
Great info, thx. Using this opportunity to rant about city-wid
networks, I'd have done something so different
than what the governments and ISPs have inflicted on us, substituting
redundancy for reliability.

I'd have used bog standard ethernet over fiber instead of gpon.

Well, in Sweden 100% of ftth connections are s= tandard active ethernet instead of gpon (and more than 60% of fixed connect= ions are ftth).=C2=A0
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