From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-it0-x232.google.com (mail-it0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C70543B2A4 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 12:45:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-it0-x232.google.com with SMTP id p81-v6so2166857itp.1 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 09:45:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mithrandi.net; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=cLra9CejBOKoAmcMhzxhcbN8EyTjMGxKvDe1SQsYLkU=; b=J6CZo+OJhDCoOXa8Sl8FE3TbdWTiR8n1GfZfOjUVmuukL5TO7jGudHFaj6Cb45z6DX r81qohuGr4agvwZNtRM+qlhMa4CUTGUsrHuWB/7npQNlUOKdw7waL7ILnT6RPwKp6cXm nXaip7biew/XQXTYvT6p2ZurlCzwc/NnZEjQA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=cLra9CejBOKoAmcMhzxhcbN8EyTjMGxKvDe1SQsYLkU=; b=TPm41TimQCwwI3FfRhGT7AiBeKzmXPNUwkDLaHnHTNzbdgrfmvTQWg+F2t/q0MqgLq uvZ3MbFBzaSO8SaGwvBUi7EZsVxoudAdcq8E+eicAc1wixELaUqu6Q8gHTyvKU3VdUnW GrvrwnogOulpjyVmqIL6+ru5OkMDQAwNdThAAQuL2CXf7FDwofoEb3Wjpbkzs4ogi6Co nISqgvSecc2QXzRplAI2kXwdPDNLJA6x2mPaZ+W77uPRjqNd6xJbZlZS3yJpP7sNfzFF PKX2+Z/PFtq4LBuBwrLM/qvur03jmj8NWb/Y6haiugrsko/iwMwZ3wb2oeoE/eYk+kQO u2/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlGVuShFnvkQHLbWwipaLW+zC5/RtCCu7vPDC8yHPbSYo3qAY4bP JKnFvu2yOG+/CmkBG8RKg0SFeichLbNR1FWbGTdNCg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpd+3f57M2HOLyZ31ykCFTzmOI24ENA/O8Wk2OSu7zkF9ng1RtFs5ff9ja8IY+HEh0GeTCmtCnXpEwqFKxhaA94= X-Received: by 2002:a24:4587:: with SMTP id c7-v6mr11745702itd.151.1532364343266; Mon, 23 Jul 2018 09:45:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4C129A60-21D3-4B78-A764-DC8E2CD7E4DF@gmail.com> <6839ba220fe4399eba3620620515fc1dd801a509.camel@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Tristan Seligmann Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 18:45:32 +0200 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jonas_M=C3=A5rtensson?= Cc: Dave Taht , Cake List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000058f0d80571ad6009" Subject: Re: [Cake] inbound cake or fq_codel shaping fails on cable on netflix reno X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 16:45:43 -0000 --00000000000058f0d80571ad6009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 at 17:26 Jonas M=C3=A5rtensson wrote: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:56 PM Dave Taht wrote: > >> Great info, thx. Using this opportunity to rant about city-wid >> networks, I'd have done something so different >> than what the governments and ISPs have inflicted on us, substituting >> redundancy for reliability. >> >> I'd have used bog standard ethernet over fiber instead of gpon. >> > > Well, in Sweden 100% of ftth connections are standard active ethernet > instead of gpon (and more than 60% of fixed connections are ftth). > Here in South Africa, we have one provider (Vumatel) deploying AE, and everyone else doing GPON :/ --00000000000058f0d80571ad6009 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, 23 Jul= 2018 at 17:26 Jonas M=C3=A5rtensson <martensson.jonas@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:56 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
Great info, thx. Using this opportunity to= rant about city-wid
networks, I'd have done something so different
than what the governments and ISPs have inflicted on us, substituting
redundancy for reliability.

I'd have used bog standard ethernet over fiber instead of gpon.

Well, in Sweden 100% of ftth connections are standard active ethe= rnet instead of gpon (and more than 60% of fixed connections are ftth).=C2= =A0

Here in South Africa,= we have one provider (Vumatel) deploying AE, and everyone else doing GPON = :/
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