From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr0-x22e.google.com (mail-wr0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 942CE3BA8E for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 03:28:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wr0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id l22so14071353wrc.11 for ; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 00:28:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=bLKih9EuS1S7kxco9+NldWSXbF1v2C6ost0ttq96DTw=; b=CmVAhdf+DxRhlzRn7ZHk4idms0FAsGdjWx2i/Xo2UQ73N7ojHnlOBgspz3HjLnwnKJ DHdey4dPBFMA2oKwiq/ZPY1THd1pOwHDM9maOdpBsbj0hpNyi5jpL/jB8HTv+4Zc228u XUvsqBRPIfCGA6QjX+ca0HGd3F9DUu7wbuCbdKz+sN5Cfnv4x0aRARQr/OZDQGtGHtT8 07DeXHlZ+cZgr2rdShWEPmBruwFmHoax5urqTcABsvASRN3LfykI3Sa9t4SdzR1NAzb/ ohPOMLq2kW6Y960lfTH4dmjWDi/oGmjYx+hjC3k4KZ+rzNQuDQQvQTf0cHvYgYkt9nTo mRGQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=bLKih9EuS1S7kxco9+NldWSXbF1v2C6ost0ttq96DTw=; b=pOBFCnfCXaXevVgfGNUOTw10xAIJaKnaP8CbaAHIP4lGsCK10kOA1dS6eD4TdpodG2 uiVeqImDfmt7F9Je1Ux8TdlH3AbEX4zuZxRbGL+e23vYDvzU6Ve1XKfJvdZxKVUmpFt1 L609vdwpjDl/uHyladp49GpCKEC6M6Bpskm/19JLBeL1S/0sIakop8DVzOoiW+jE52n1 nemU5jI/D9Afl+gyt3Bx5fD0m6wA2vJkvzhOaqjwt7JzH3869XS0Pz/L5/QfXiEWFdtV EA3hAnLVxm9Km9+72h//tw3J6Qjax3/zytC4LHt7C8HgUwK5kt+ASduyo7AwT18DvLVR UxgA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX6xRys5A3nnkdy9Em20U5KvUlehojyLOj/LJfc7iWVWzIOUjeL+ ioYMLnqiMuKilUWjT1pLTJxQsziqfuWmVVMdm8A= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMblCeyLJ1WfybOdGDAnkmdqqr3MgUA9I5fF4bz0RKFxK7fXMhyH1kVxcU6+XHmUJ+Lcdn05NyaWxSMkXUx/i14= X-Received: by 10.223.176.113 with SMTP id g46mr10459165wra.267.1512289722627; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 00:28:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7855AA2C-BF69-4B9E-8794-A7D15DE44C4F@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Pete Heist Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2017 08:28:32 +0000 Message-ID: To: Jonathan Morton Cc: Cake List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1141552eb6f9d0055f6b631b" Subject: Re: [Cake] cake flenter results round 4 X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2017 08:28:43 -0000 --001a1141552eb6f9d0055f6b631b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 10:15 PM Jonathan Morton wrote: > Just to note, deficiencies in host fairness are most likely directly > linked to less-than-full throughput. One host is able to use bandwidth > left unused by the other. > I see, that makes sense. Anyway what I wrote earlier about this high rtt test being opposite from Ethernet made no sense. :| It=E2=80=99s the same h= ere as earlier, that increasing the rtt setting improves fairness, only there may be different things going on at these rtts. Thanks... --001a1141552eb6f9d0055f6b631b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 10:= 15 PM Jonathan Morton <chromati= x99@gmail.com> wrote:

Jus= t to note, deficiencies in host fairness are most likely directly linked to= less-than-full throughput.=C2=A0 One host is able to use bandwidth left un= used by the other.


I see, that makes sense. Anyway what I wrote earlier about this high = rtt test being opposite from Ethernet made no sense. :| It=E2=80=99s the sa= me here as earlier, that increasing the rtt setting improves fairness, only= there may be different things going on at these rtts.

Thanks...
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