From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yk0-x22e.google.com (mail-yk0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B392C21F914; Tue, 6 Oct 2015 07:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ykdz138 with SMTP id z138so204029182ykd.2; Tue, 06 Oct 2015 07:21:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oWByuRenDA6KNaefV4fALNJTaxKrNwgEKWyx86kIrhg=; b=rzNISh3MdQ/hJMUa237z3DXIHOzIjjw1fHXAD5WpYdqiWBaB2SXlPIX8CpBiwtkff1 vwtHATb7y5yiP7JLkXvMdjlU/gSpgH6VIHaCNDqo8XWZYwnFJVudi+S3YIzEqF8iCkZ4 /U9tC7w5x6aEi2gqywuT75M5usqQixQgCs+Jxv0KQvxUTn7UmdmX1AvtWSLkWlYXkc0j bMg4y8CcYIIpEYQCkNjpQpPQYHfGjgDR6bDZwsgEXDNPj1SgPH3jTkdrSyasgrAsS91Z yZcEQL6pBTPiBoch8WBpWDIVzpqpSgD1nAPya22vKoJ45wWrTQ3BkLajqz8w2mMcTObq H79g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.13.232.148 with SMTP id r142mr2085549ywe.284.1444141299040; Tue, 06 Oct 2015 07:21:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.13.237.131 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Oct 2015 07:21:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20151006134915.GF12763@odroid> References: <20151006134915.GF12763@odroid> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 16:21:38 +0200 Message-ID: From: Benjamin Henrion To: Battle of the Mesh Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 06 Oct 2015 12:30:21 -0700 Cc: fcc@lists.prplfoundation.org, make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net, cake@lists.bufferbloat.net, "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , bloat , OpenWrt Development List Subject: Re: [Cake] [Battlemesh] [OpenWrt-Devel] the cerowrt project's letter to the fcc about the wifi lockdown is nearly final X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: zoobab@gmail.com List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2015 14:22:03 -0000 On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Linus L=C3=BCssing wrote: > On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 02:13:36AM +0200, Dave Taht wrote: >> Comment away! > > There are many good points made in this text. > > I like the Volkswagen example and the suggestion to require > opening up the firmware. > > For the latter, had been thinking about that before briefly, > but kind of dismissed it early, basically because the reasoning in > my head was that FCC shouldn't make any requirements regarding > the form of the software at all. They should only regulate the > result. Blobs cannot be trusted to do the right thing. -- Benjamin Henrion FFII Brussels - +32-484-566109 - +32-2-4148403 "In July 2005, after several failed attempts to legalise software patents in Europe, the patent establishment changed its strategy. Instead of explicitly seeking to sanction the patentability of software, they are now seeking to create a central European patent court, which would establish and enforce patentability rules in their favor, without any possibility of correction by competing courts or democratically elected legislators."