From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qv1-xf32.google.com (mail-qv1-xf32.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5ACA43B29D for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2023 11:59:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qv1-xf32.google.com with SMTP id 6a1803df08f44-66d122e0c85so12507186d6.3 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2023 08:59:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1697212797; x=1697817597; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=IJbYR9zB8Hdo8BRukvLFwOq6btkRRjXvk30RMvqoBHs=; b=ZFkof90dDL0n0vmE8W3+m9e18dGJ8k0IJVWkCKuAErkGtAjwl0P5urwtpoUBzfHcFM mpM0pR4EUn7g5Rj8q1MTsDKfVQpS4B4c6NNEIOskx3wiX2BKp4oFRaVWJ+3WexuN1dD9 v2Ry1FRajCcvlRFLSfh37//Mf+fPV+6o+z8ryEB4CxSIoskwGqhAewdpAtIw4g6MhsXd GgQjvegdJGZp3kKzoETtIHQPNzmqipGbPftk9SMzo1Svf9yXcxTI4UaeQ9rY5+Cbu1K9 JGcPzMxpmOxgp9UbA7iSokKlmdl+eZoW5qLxuXIXFPj67EaB4JHrauxnxk01Z7UZXF6l j8Mg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1697212797; x=1697817597; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=IJbYR9zB8Hdo8BRukvLFwOq6btkRRjXvk30RMvqoBHs=; b=Jq5UHRDO2zPnZf5C2uhujkJj30chvbE2wMWzsP9CEr6Ii2c7s6G251o/YgHzjyObVa NETfCv9pVXDMjS5bUH17GgpGNPSNkyPgoJnJILFicjD7rusHGVltG3yUb4Hqiqpz02JA UTOY9MdUHEWT+ARYRHKMVlcS84jeC3CjtQKZjRPUB9e4JX9Vn4O8hYYBStEnkIArCRN/ 5K9SVDK5da0oCM/aL5NLruOKXp0Sqea7Hlgn6vaaz8XloNtTjyesecTXjlJsmNOrXM+z mM8SHy+Fvp86rHplsFwyhASFsgaUuC9CiATslofJ3MxPxYyjf6S13gACMiyuwmb3qtLg w5UQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxOVdT1Nn+ZCUki/fC+doZ2HBjgQwF+9ROs8BdpKmTVAR5scDgW n5XvSe3SKrFJeVlGwsTzu1yPYJpeUD18BxC6771JrktDHvI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHVw4BwNop37SqbqOznaZ4P+TA/3peIacjkNrB1gMcn1s1UVY6lVUN3wmg2FmXu+YEp043lhmyZWCulX0/+G1s= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:c86:b0:66d:1538:6a74 with SMTP id r6-20020a0562140c8600b0066d15386a74mr6743627qvr.35.1697212797415; Fri, 13 Oct 2023 08:59:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1695068690.78066946@apps.rackspace.com> <6D098714-69DC-41D9-A7DC-E94FD9C77625@gmail.com> <79EC8CB2-0912-4D66-9FA3-990E9C38C281@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: dave seddon Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 08:59:45 -0700 Message-ID: To: Cake List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e5f63006079b25ec" Subject: Re: [Cake] some comprehensive arm64 w/cake results X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 15:59:58 -0000 --000000000000e5f63006079b25ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G'day, I've been working away on automation of the tests. Pretty close to having much nicer tests with a lot more details. I've also got the risc-v device working. However, I've run into something funny with flent. Flent is not happy with fping or ping. das@3rd:~/Downloads/cake/cmd/run_qdiscs_tests$ /usr/bin/sudo /usr/sbin/ip netns exec network101 /usr/bin/flent rrul --output /tmp/qdisc/2023-10-13T15:53:21/pi4/noqueue/flent/test/15_flent/flent_pi4_n= oqueue.png --data-dir /tmp/qdisc/2023-10-13T15:53:21/pi4/noqueue/flent/test/15_flent/ --format summary --plot all_scaled --title-extra 2023-10-13T15:53:21_pi4_noqueue --note 2023-10-13T15:53:21_pi4_noqueue --extended-metadata --host 172.17.51.10 --length 60 --ipv4 --socket-stats Starting Flent 2.0.1 using Python 3.10.12. Starting rrul test. Expected run time: 70 seconds. WARNING: Found fping, but couldn't parse its output. Not using. <---------------- ??? ERROR: Runner Ping (ms) ICMP failed check: Cannot parse output of the system ping binary (/usr/bin/ping). Please install fping v3.5+. <----- ?= ? das@3rd:~/Downloads/cake/cmd/run_qdiscs_tests$ dpkg --list | grep ping ii fping 5.1-1 amd64 sends ICMP ECHO_REQUEST packets to network hosts ii iputils-ping 3:20211215-1 amd64 Tools to test the reachability of network hosts ii kpartx 0.8.8-1ubuntu1.22.04.1 amd64 create device mappings for partitions ii libharfbuzz0b:amd64 2.7.4-1ubuntu3.1 amd64 OpenType text shaping engine (shared library) das@3rd:~/Downloads/cake/cmd/run_qdiscs_tests$ fping --version fping: Version 5.1 das@3rd:~/Downloads/cake/cmd/run_qdiscs_tests$ ping -V ping from iputils 20211215 das@3rd:~/Downloads/cake/cmd/run_qdiscs_tests$ cat /etc/lsb-release DISTRIB_ID=3DUbuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=3D22.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=3Djammy DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=3D"Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS" I did install via "apt install fping" Any thoughts please? Kind regards, Dave On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 6:27=E2=80=AFAM Sebastian Moeller via Cake < cake@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > > > On Sep 28, 2023, at 15:19, David Lang wrote: > > > > On Thu, 28 Sep 2023, Sebastian Moeller via Cake wrote: > > > >> P.S.: I am tempted, but will likely wait until they are available in > quantity and hope that the street price comes down a bit before getting o= ne > ;) > > > > They aren't available at all yet, and it's not clear when they will be > available. > > The announcement was end of October, but I think I could pre-orde= r > right now if I was feeling an urge. You are right though, announced !=3D > available or delivered. > > Regards > Sebastian > > P.S.: I have a pi400 in use as "desktop" for my oldest kid, this is close > to be actually generally usable, I would guess that changing a potential > p500 from the pi400's 4GB to 8 GB together with the other imprivements th= e > 5 brings might push it over the threshold into the truly useful category. > Which probably means that either a potential pi500 will come late and > probably with only 4 GB, but let's see how this works out now that the > supply situation is less problematic. > And I understand that there are other capable ARM based SoCs for > homerouter/desktop duty, I just happen ot have a soft spot for the > raspberry project ;) > > > > > David Lang > > _______________________________________________ > Cake mailing list > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake > --=20 Regards, Dave Seddon +1 415 857 5102 --000000000000e5f63006079b25ec Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
G'day,

I've been wor= king away on automation of the tests.=C2=A0 Pretty close to having much nic= er tests with a lot more details.=C2=A0 I've also got the risc-v device= working.

However, I've run into something= funny with flent.=C2=A0 Flent is not happy with fping or ping.

das@3rd:~/Downloads/cake/cmd/run_qdiscs_tests$ /usr/bin/s= udo /usr/sbin/ip netns exec network101 /usr/bin/flent rrul --output =C2=A0/= tmp/qdisc/2023-10-13T15:53:21/pi4/noqueue/flent/test/15_flent/flent_pi4_noq= ueue.png --data-dir /tmp/qdisc/2023-10-13T15:53:21/pi4/noqueue/flent/test/1= 5_flent/ --format summary --plot all_scaled --title-extra 2023-10-13T15:53:= 21_pi4_noqueue --note 2023-10-13T15:53:21_pi4_noqueue --extended-metadata -= -host 172.17.51.10 --length 60 --ipv4 --socket-stats
Starting Flent 2.0.= 1 using Python 3.10.12.
Starting rrul test. Expected run time: 70 second= s.
WARNING: Found fping, but couldn't parse its output. Not using.= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 <---------------- ???
ERROR: Runner Ping (ms) ICMP failed check: = Cannot parse output of the system ping binary (/usr/bin/ping). Please insta= ll fping v3.5+.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <----- ??

das= @3rd:~/Downloads/cake/cmd/run_qdiscs_tests$ dpkg --list | grep ping
ii = =C2=A0fping =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 5.1-1 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 amd64 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0sends ICMP ECHO_R= EQUEST packets to network hosts
ii =C2=A0iputils-ping =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A03:= 20211215-1 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0amd64 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Tools to= test the reachability of network hosts
ii =C2=A0kpartx =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00.8.8-1ubuntu1.22.04.1 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0amd64 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0create d= evice mappings for partitions
ii =C2=A0libharfbuzz0b:amd64 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2.7.4-1ubuntu3.1 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0amd64 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0OpenType text shaping engine (shared li= brary)
das@3rd:~/Downloads/cake/cmd/run_qdiscs_tests$ fping --versionfping: Version 5.1
das@3rd:~/Downloads/cake/cmd/run_qdiscs_tests= $ ping -V
ping from iputils 20211215

das@3rd:~/= Downloads/cake/cmd/run_qdiscs_tests$ cat /etc/lsb-release
DISTRIB_ID=3D= Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=3D22.04
DISTRIB_CODENAME=3Djammy
DISTRIB_DE= SCRIPTION=3D"Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS"

I did i= nstall via "apt install fping"

Any t= houghts please?

Kind regards,
Dave

On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 6:27=E2=80=AFAM Sebastian Moeller via Cake <= cake@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> On Sep 28, 2023, at 15:19, David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 28 Sep 2023, Sebastian Moeller via Cake wrote:
>
>> P.S.: I am tempted, but will likely wait until they are available = in quantity and hope that the street price comes down a bit before getting = one ;)
>
> They aren't available at all yet, and it's not clear when they= will be available.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The announcement was end of October, but I thin= k I could pre-order right now if I was feeling an urge. You are right thoug= h, announced !=3D available or delivered.

Regards
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Sebastian

P.S.: I have a pi400 in use as "desktop" for my oldest kid, this = is close to be actually generally usable, I would guess that changing a pot= ential p500 from the pi400's 4GB to 8 GB together with the other impriv= ements the 5 brings might push it over the threshold into the truly useful = category. Which probably means that either a potential pi500 will come late= and probably with only 4 GB, but let's see how this works out now that= the supply situation is less problematic.
And I understand that there are other capable ARM based SoCs for homerouter= /desktop duty, I just happen ot have a soft spot for the raspberry project = ;)

>
> David Lang

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