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From: dave seddon <dave.seddon.ca@gmail.com>
To: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Cake] some comprehensive arm64 w/cake results
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 14:35:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANypexT-=WZJdmQDpjOLD1Fi3gVH1jipeh-VWvg1-6MB_URK8g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANypexSxiuzLn-mKHtpimL0Q24UMzriFKBPN4m4KyvchggeFxQ@mail.gmail.com>


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G'day Dave,

Regarding the devices under test with Byte Queue Limits (BQL).

lychee pi ( https://wiki.sipeed.com/hardware/en/lichee/th1520/lp4a.html )
with driver "st_gmac" does NOT have BQL. ( not a great surprise )

Driver is:
https://github.com/randomizedcoder/cake/blob/main/device_info/lpi4a/ethtool_driver_end0

das@lpi4a:~$ /usr/sbin/ethtool -i end0
driver: st_gmac                                <-----------
version: Jan_2016
firmware-version:
expansion-rom-version:
bus-info:
supports-statistics: yes
supports-test: no
supports-eeprom-access: no
supports-register-dump: yes
supports-priv-flags: no

Jetson-nano has driver r8169 and is also not BQL enabled.
https://github.com/randomizedcoder/cake/blob/main/device_info/jetson-nano/ethtool_driver_eth0

Based on doc here:
https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/codel/wiki/Best_practices_for_benchmarking_Codel_and_FQ_Codel/,
the current drivers with BQL are:

das@t:~/Downloads/linux$ find drivers/net/ -name '*.c' -print | \
xargs fgrep -l netdev_completed_queue
drivers/net/can/spi/mcp251xfd/mcp251xfd-tef.c
drivers/net/can/usb/etas_es58x/es58x_core.c
drivers/net/can/dev/length.c
drivers/net/ipa/ipa_gsi.c
drivers/net/wan/fsl_ucc_hdlc.c
drivers/net/ethernet/freescale/ucc_geth.c
drivers/net/ethernet/marvell/skge.c
drivers/net/ethernet/marvell/sky2.c
drivers/net/ethernet/qualcomm/emac/emac-mac.c
drivers/net/ethernet/socionext/netsec.c
drivers/net/ethernet/atheros/ag71xx.c
drivers/net/ethernet/mediatek/mtk_star_emac.c
drivers/net/ethernet/3com/3c59x.c
drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/bcm4908_enet.c
drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/bgmac.c
drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/b44.c
drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/bcm63xx_enet.c
drivers/net/ethernet/realtek/8139cp.c                    <------- close,
but NOT r8169
drivers/net/ethernet/lantiq_xrx200.c
drivers/net/ethernet/via/via-rhine.c
drivers/net/ethernet/hisilicon/hix5hd2_gmac.c
drivers/net/ethernet/hisilicon/hip04_eth.c
drivers/net/ethernet/hisilicon/hisi_femac.c
drivers/net/ethernet/intel/e1000e/netdev.c
drivers/net/ethernet/intel/e1000/e1000_main.c
drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia/forcedeth.c

The st_gmac driver can also be seen here:
https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/4f82870119a46b0d04d91ef4697ac4977a255a9d/drivers/net/ethernet/stmicro/stmmac/stmmac_ethtool.c#L26

I guess I can take a look at creating an MR or two (2).

Regards,
Dave Seddon

On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 9:27 AM dave seddon <dave.seddon.ca@gmail.com>
wrote:

> G'day,
>
> Just to make sure the results are repeatable, I ran the flent tests again
> for 600 seconds.
>
> Directory here
>
> https://github.com/randomizedcoder/qdisc_results/tree/main/qdisc/2023-10-24T05%3A16%3A21
>
> Example direct links to the flent files:
>
> https://github.com/randomizedcoder/qdisc_results/blob/main/qdisc/2023-10-24T05%3A16%3A21/pi4/cake20/flent/test/16_flent/rrul-2023-10-24T061153.944938.2023-10-24T05_16_21_pi4_cake20.flent.gz
>
> https://github.com/randomizedcoder/qdisc_results/blob/main/qdisc/2023-10-24T05%3A16%3A21/jetson-nano/fq_codel/flent/test/16_flent/rrul-2023-10-24T081332.189258.2023-10-24T05_16_21_jetson-nano_fq_codel.flent.gz
>
> I'm not experienced at reading these flent reports, but it looks to me
> like fq_codel has similar latency, but higher Mb/s than cake.
>
> Jetson nano fq_codel
> [image: image.png]
>
>
> Jetson nano cake20
> [image: image.png]
>
> The new network card arrived, so I need to work out how to integrate the
> latency injection. ( I kind of wish I had multiple switches, so I could do
> q-in-q, because this could dramatically simply the linux latency injecting
> bridge machine's config. )
>
> Kind regards,
> Dave Seddon
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 1:31 PM dave seddon <dave.seddon.ca@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> G'day,
>>
>> Dave Taht and I have had a couple of phone conversations now, and he's
>> convinced me that rather than inserting the netem delay on each laptop,
>> that latency should be added by a seperate device.  To this end, I've got
>> another little PC and a NIC coming, so that I can repeat all the tests with
>> seperate latency injection.
>>
>> However, I've also completed the flent tests with the laptops adding
>> latency at each end.
>>
>> Full test runs here:
>>
>> https://github.com/randomizedcoder/qdisc_results/tree/main/qdisc/2023-10-23T16%3A49%3A10
>>
>> You can find the actual rrul flent .tar.gz results for each test.
>>
>> e.g
>> Pi4 fq is here:
>>
>> https://github.com/randomizedcoder/qdisc_results/blob/main/qdisc/2023-10-23T16%3A49%3A10/pi4/fq/flent/test/16_flent/rrul-2023-10-23T170016.068273.2023-10-23T16_49_10_pi4_fq.flent.gz
>>
>> Lychee Pi Risv with cake qdisc:
>>
>> https://github.com/randomizedcoder/qdisc_results/blob/main/qdisc/2023-10-23T16%3A49%3A10/lpi4a/cake20/flent/test/16_flent/rrul-2023-10-23T201354.818316.2023-10-23T16_49_10_lpi4a_cake20.flent.gz
>>
>> Just take these with a grain of salt until the new latency injection is
>> in place.
>>
>> ... I'll see if I can script up the generation of all the pretty graphs
>> soon
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave Seddon
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 8:11 AM dave seddon <dave.seddon.ca@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> G'day,
>>>
>>> I've put more work into a test framework around the qdisc tests, but
>>> unfortunately flent doesn't work easily with Ubuntu LTS (
>>> https://github.com/tohojo/flent/issues/232, which I think is an issue
>>> with flent parsing the fping output ).
>>>
>>> Results and graphs in this sheet:
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T59QwEdNwJFm4TgDFA_NY98gicOm8ABXKvDsSIMz9ag/edit#gid=1203641125
>>>
>>> Raw results of x2 test runs are here:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/randomizedcoder/qdisc_results/blob/main/qdisc/report.csv
>>>
>>> Each run:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/randomizedcoder/qdisc_results/blob/main/qdisc/2023-10-13T18%3A45%3A45/report.csv
>>>
>>> https://github.com/randomizedcoder/qdisc_results/blob/main/qdisc/2023-10-14T14%3A22%3A53/report.csv
>>>
>>> Full iperf outputs are available too, for example: https://github.com/randomizedcoder/qdisc_results/blob/main/qdisc/2023-10-13T18%3A45%3A45/nanopi-r2s/fq_codel/iperf/test/16_iperf/stdout
>>>
>>>
>>> Logs for each run are also available, for example:
>>> https://github.com/randomizedcoder/qdisc_results/blob/main/qdisc/2023-10-13T18%3A45%3A45/log.json
>>>
>>> The code repo updated here: https://github.com/randomizedcoder/cake ,
>>> with thehttps://github.com/randomizedcoder/cake/blob/main/README.md
>>> which explains how the test work.
>>> Updated google doc is started here:
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fYKj3BS89aB9drg_DsSq289xSdVQhn1zUJYCj0WuCs0/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Based on the questions on this list earlier, there is a folder with
>>> device information for each of the devices
>>> https://github.com/randomizedcoder/cake/tree/main/device_info
>>>
>>> For example, the Pi4 and the Lichee Pi (risc-v) hardware layout is here:
>>> - https://github.com/randomizedcoder/cake/blob/main/device_info/pi4/hwloc-ls-pi4.png
>>>
>>> -
>>> https://github.com/randomizedcoder/cake/blob/main/device_info/lpi4a/hwloc-ls-lpi4a.png
>>>
>>> The switch has also been upgraded to a Cisco 3750x, which I think based
>>> on the "show interface" output has a max queue size of 40 frames.  The test
>>> process clears the counters before each test and gathers the "show
>>> interface" output at the end.
>>>
>>> The Lichee Pi 4A doesn't look good (
>>> https://wiki.sipeed.com/hardware/en/lichee/th1520/lp4a.html )
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>> I really wish the flent was working, so I'll probably see if I can work
>>> out the parsing.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dave Seddon
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 10:25 AM dave seddon <dave.seddon.ca@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My bad.  There's a bug for this.... Looks like I have to downgrade fping
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/tohojo/flent/issues/232
>>>> https://github.com/schweikert/fping/issues/203
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 8:59 AM dave seddon <dave.seddon.ca@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> G'day,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been working away on automation of the tests.  Pretty close to
>>>>> having much nicer tests with a lot more details.  I've also got the risc-v
>>>>> device working.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, I've run into something funny with flent.  Flent is not happy
>>>>> with fping or ping.
>>>>>
>>>>> das@3rd:~/Downloads/cake/cmd/run_qdiscs_tests$ /usr/bin/sudo
>>>>> /usr/sbin/ip netns exec network101 /usr/bin/flent rrul --output
>>>>>  /tmp/qdisc/2023-10-13T15:53:21/pi4/noqueue/flent/test/15_flent/flent_pi4_noqueue.png
>>>>> --data-dir /tmp/qdisc/2023-10-13T15:53:21/pi4/noqueue/flent/test/15_flent/
>>>>> --format summary --plot all_scaled --title-extra
>>>>> 2023-10-13T15:53:21_pi4_noqueue --note 2023-10-13T15:53:21_pi4_noqueue
>>>>> --extended-metadata --host 172.17.51.10 --length 60 --ipv4 --socket-stats
>>>>> Starting Flent 2.0.1 using Python 3.10.12.
>>>>> Starting rrul test. Expected run time: 70 seconds.
>>>>> WARNING: Found fping, but couldn't parse its output. Not
>>>>> using.              <---------------- ???
>>>>> ERROR: Runner Ping (ms) ICMP failed check: Cannot parse output of the
>>>>> system ping binary (/usr/bin/ping). Please install fping v3.5+.    <----- ??
>>>>>
>>>>> das@3rd:~/Downloads/cake/cmd/run_qdiscs_tests$ dpkg --list | grep ping
>>>>> ii  fping                                 5.1-1
>>>>>             amd64        sends ICMP ECHO_REQUEST packets to network hosts
>>>>> ii  iputils-ping                          3:20211215-1
>>>>>            amd64        Tools to test the reachability of network hosts
>>>>> ii  kpartx                                0.8.8-1ubuntu1.22.04.1
>>>>>            amd64        create device mappings for partitions
>>>>> ii  libharfbuzz0b:amd64                   2.7.4-1ubuntu3.1
>>>>>            amd64        OpenType text shaping engine (shared library)
>>>>> das@3rd:~/Downloads/cake/cmd/run_qdiscs_tests$ fping --version
>>>>> fping: Version 5.1
>>>>> das@3rd:~/Downloads/cake/cmd/run_qdiscs_tests$ ping -V
>>>>> ping from iputils 20211215
>>>>>
>>>>> das@3rd:~/Downloads/cake/cmd/run_qdiscs_tests$ cat /etc/lsb-release
>>>>> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
>>>>> DISTRIB_RELEASE=22.04
>>>>> DISTRIB_CODENAME=jammy
>>>>> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS"
>>>>>
>>>>> I did install via "apt install fping"
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts please?
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 6:27 AM Sebastian Moeller via Cake <
>>>>> cake@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On Sep 28, 2023, at 15:19, David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Thu, 28 Sep 2023, Sebastian Moeller via Cake wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> P.S.: I am tempted, but will likely wait until they are available
>>>>>> in quantity and hope that the street price comes down a bit before getting
>>>>>> one ;)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > They aren't available at all yet, and it's not clear when they will
>>>>>> be available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         The announcement was end of October, but I think I could
>>>>>> pre-order right now if I was feeling an urge. You are right though,
>>>>>> announced != available or delivered.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>         Sebastian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S.: I have a pi400 in use as "desktop" for my oldest kid, this is
>>>>>> close to be actually generally usable, I would guess that changing a
>>>>>> potential p500 from the pi400's 4GB to 8 GB together with the other
>>>>>> imprivements the 5 brings might push it over the threshold into the truly
>>>>>> useful category. Which probably means that either a potential pi500 will
>>>>>> come late and probably with only 4 GB, but let's see how this works out now
>>>>>> that the supply situation is less problematic.
>>>>>> And I understand that there are other capable ARM based SoCs for
>>>>>> homerouter/desktop duty, I just happen ot have a soft spot for the
>>>>>> raspberry project ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > David Lang
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Cake mailing list
>>>>>> Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
>>>>>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dave Seddon
>>>>> +1 415 857 5102
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave Seddon
>>>> +1 415 857 5102
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave Seddon
>>> +1 415 857 5102
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Dave Seddon
>> +1 415 857 5102
>>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Dave Seddon
> +1 415 857 5102
>


-- 
Regards,
Dave Seddon
+1 415 857 5102

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-24 21:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-18  1:05 Dave Taht
2023-09-18  1:25 ` Jonathan Morton
2023-09-18 16:57 ` David P. Reed
2023-09-18 19:50 ` dave seddon
2023-09-18 20:24   ` David P. Reed
2023-09-18 22:07     ` Jonathan Morton
2023-09-28 11:44       ` Jonathan Morton
2023-09-28 12:15         ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-28 12:33           ` Jonathan Morton
2023-09-28 12:56             ` David Lang
2023-09-28 13:08             ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-28 13:19               ` David Lang
2023-09-28 13:27                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-10-13 15:59                   ` dave seddon
2023-10-13 17:25                     ` dave seddon
2023-10-15 15:11                       ` dave seddon
2023-10-15 15:52                         ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-10-15 16:24                           ` dave seddon
2023-10-15 20:29                             ` David P. Reed
2023-10-16  3:52                               ` Jonathan Morton
2023-10-15 15:53                         ` Dave Taht
2023-10-23 20:31                         ` dave seddon
2023-10-23 20:35                           ` dave seddon
2023-10-24 16:27                           ` dave seddon
2023-10-24 21:35                             ` dave seddon [this message]
2023-10-24 22:06                               ` Dave Taht
2023-09-18 22:13   ` Jonathan Morton
2023-09-18 22:52     ` dave seddon
2023-09-18 23:08       ` Jonathan Morton

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