From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pa0-x22b.google.com (mail-pa0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDA7F21F786; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 08:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pacfv9 with SMTP id fv9so106434623pac.3; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 08:10:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=JZn0y2olG+rsXivCK4vU1n4orVzrhPqPJaNm9WBX0P8=; b=XA0IwC3JrOidWi7rm11+5dC6JJoVc+pipWCGIWAF3Kc2Y8zylOmrwINpNvj/UxBrRo FsYWu3xw2IgcEVUiYoXypROgla8fgmwhr5hRgrU7mRd1Ir8glkEWzLYSwLJ1HQI6412A S8kK9bSIdXAV7l83iLXkPpW8tZy4K5EK5uvirrFhsXiQX0v5JhxoMx29aSlXSKU8C3a3 ocU4jt71zVrAvPn6M/IW22ekWitm1oBybf5LAfrGSnWeTUiJDrstVfot5GB/dQl4qcqg Od4W4lTkG2CsYDEAxk3Y7xR8hLimm2W7bh4B5nSbobew5j3/BCJoGlIo5iREAR47Dx85 NI3w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.248.198 with SMTP id yo6mr15099802pac.96.1446304204013; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 08:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.23.38 with HTTP; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 08:10:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:10:03 +0000 Message-ID: From: Loganaden Velvindron To: Dave Taht Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b15adcd514968052367f080 Cc: Michiel Leenaars , make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net, Eric Bishop , cake@lists.bufferbloat.net, "codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , =?UTF-8?Q?Peter_Steinh=C3=A4user?= , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , bloat Subject: Re: [Cake] On an org and on joining the software patent non-aggression community X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:10:27 -0000 --047d7b15adcd514968052367f080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > Over the last 5 years or so the open inventions network has grown by > leaps and bounds. > http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/community-of-licensees/ > > Here in the bufferbloat pits... instead of joining that, we worked > really hard to make sure codel went out into the public domain > unpatented - for anyone to use, and so far, so good on that.... > > But there are so many IP landmines ahead (and behind) that it makes > sense for at least CeroWrt/make-wifi-fast to now join with a group > like OIN for mutual defense against the trolls. I think. Maybe. > We need to be careful here. I would be happy to see bufferbloat join in if the OIN organization is going to follow up their actions, and remain true to their mission. That's something that only time will tell, I suppose. --047d7b15adcd514968052367f080 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
Over the last 5 years o= r so the open inventions network has grown by
leaps and bounds.
http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/commu= nity-of-licensees/

Here in the bufferbloat pits... instead of joining that, we worked
really hard to make sure codel went out into the public domain
unpatented - for anyone to use, and so far, so good on that....

But there are so many IP landmines ahead (and behind) that it makes
sense for at least CeroWrt/make-wifi-fast to now join with a group
like OIN for mutual defense against the trolls. I think. Maybe.
=C2=A0

We need to be careful here. I would be h= appy to see bufferbloat join in if the OIN organization is going to follow = up their actions, and remain true to their mission. That's something th= at only time will tell, I suppose.



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