From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=pass (Used From Domain Record) header.from=gmail.com policy.dmarc=quarantine Received: from mail-lj1-x22d.google.com (mail-lj1-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22d]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C58270E548 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2025 10:59:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-lj1-x22d.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-363cb0cd8a1so64333711fa.2 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2025 01:59:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1759222774; x=1759827574; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:date :in-reply-to:from:subject:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=2qXTbqi4dylGIsI7CyS40AXhSdbwzvJLzbv9McGctoU=; b=MzyigUlo7MU/iBjnPU6vGRL3601LsvXvpnwGCtbtwAWDPrMirS44ERqR5brLmibUtV 5nKPXxQbx+3WTZ3IzhkEBWK07C0f2rJgPihvixttDKZKn8qtC56/GjR1MDP5D6vNB3Py EJpf4rmuKlkLlS7ZzqerfkLd8Hl+LeV4G+G/nO3VqpIePQNhuxmKw86L6h8B8RrUlr4H NekhMAukzx+/tyfMdXC0dpGWCfEHsLgDHMIHp81BIR4fRHpzHTLwT/OvDLRx/B4EkbQc pN3elGaOZ/FK/HbG5gPfm+9jetvaTPMQKtWtWuqCWbDOS8EMPh8NoRnnQK2Yoln3Id+D Vigw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1759222774; x=1759827574; h=to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:date :in-reply-to:from:subject:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=2qXTbqi4dylGIsI7CyS40AXhSdbwzvJLzbv9McGctoU=; b=EbhcV8rdbcdkXoXw8+kJ3k2EiQ0QDZGfqeY/lmGCYNoPoUY8JQUCptzziWkHOm06Kt FDSHMHxie72TqOXvS0coscZK5CXXy5//TmqgHpyMqkfoJ+VDwldZK8uFRiAgS5EOF5pO tTdX9AL62ymm9xkaLcmITKSnoyu49rJY8yECIA6agT6Mnhih/o1SU8VIkTUeKyaDALPz eejeBqFaillqHTxLPEqmMOjrWUEQVE4Iifp4aoe58KWIeVqYJ1i4SkJ80W6yLdMTnWDn 7osA1bnjZVrtbq+AaNexggUYPJZTldQB6dctqLdkN3sB3iXbLr3rg4QRsXPwOiM53YDS eOLQ== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCUNpvFZuqxLWLa5KYXVRDx0nVW227DJqStkUKkNEDbijWDccI3vguxd4AdfRjHGuA8C8g9l@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxSU9oyqe1Tk1fxE84dIecjchoOxlqT7dkn3/APv+7gjCWieIUV yaJx0C911uuGuP9XlU1Neur4Ka6NxPxB4P7aa++1OvYNVQE5mIEPQbk3 X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncvRVAGXsPz/IIWMHH0ebn97R4RYBi+F3Cq3jWlEjaNnI0PcgYCAXEaBXEgtcgD OCF0a2TWE8+cyU5Ts2FvR2iWMJOZI/aHJuuBM84dB9oCkYvudLWxzs6te5REUKWfNRaUNr+BRoe 76/tSpgrbWK9QCnA0Kqq7DlLEFsEEp66VHYGgKXkA/uHVqWXUG4hm0mov1bofuI4ujr4wpd2SD6 YuGM7NTOuuIU67jed8NmOex7sdctBoUyyhpo6+DNMJXGp3K+HeeTGnzVba+WDv+rlnUaxAy/zKR A4p7fRUBP3VFghGBzudOEki74+vIvsq68Bujv7exNfErEnUGmKJSORRoooPqAwDoDPt4d7L+uQJ vTtCs4i5Nkk55TmZjQ7lCH7lF7V0cdHwhD1TC1SS7A0JPScyzsc6jyveSkoGP0hcbZdh5Mkhk4O ptGBJiedu/aAFwq5z6iiWGG2M4IYamLG/DoaFpNQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEI47svfh7EpGaGMveVKszURamGUBG0djE5opnuJN6JqYaPrMBNXMInVZBkveI8PPDCZJU2Bg== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9a15:0:b0:36e:8b37:b43c with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-36f7e78ad95mr72691631fa.22.1759222773676; Tue, 30 Sep 2025 01:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (37-219-197-32.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi. [37.219.197.32]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 38308e7fff4ca-36fb4e398fcsm31720141fa.25.2025.09.30.01.59.32 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Sep 2025 01:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.100.0.2.22\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2025 11:59:32 +0300 Cc: dave seddon , David Lang , m@jaap.pro, "cake@lists.bufferbloat.net" , Frantisek Borsik Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <2064666241.42029.1759061544846@app.mailbox.org> <962896BA-6EE5-4815-B6F9-AC50B7252642@gmail.com> To: Sebastian Moeller X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.100.0.2.22) Message-ID-Hash: LOA6FKZ547J2NQQUQLFVW7Z5QS67HK5P X-Message-ID-Hash: LOA6FKZ547J2NQQUQLFVW7Z5QS67HK5P X-MailFrom: chromatix99@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Cake] Re: help request for cake on a large network List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: > On 30 Sep, 2025, at 9:09 am, Sebastian Moeller = wrote: >=20 > I would really like to see some tc -s qdisc output from this network = under load, as that should be informative if any twaeks are necessary at = all. I think the point is that this is a conference/event network that will = be set up transiently. By the time you get a realistic workload to = measure the behaviour of, you're in production. - Jonathan Morton=