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From: Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>,
	Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] dual-src/dsthost unfairness, only with bi-directional traffic
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 12:34:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D387E590-F518-4DED-85CE-40679D51F760@heistp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C7F58585-8A6F-46C5-9A26-3F282EEFFA3C@heistp.net>


> On Jan 3, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net> wrote:
> 
> I tried iperf3 in UDP mode, but cake is treating these flows aggressively. I get the impression that cake penalizes flows heavily that do not respond to congestion control signals. If I pit one 8 TCP flows against a single UDP flow at 40mbit, the UDP flow goes into a death spiral with increasing drops over time (iperf3 output attached).

Sigh, this spiraling was partly because iperf3 in UDP mode sends 8k buffers by default. If I use “-l 1472” with the iperf3 client, the send rates are the same, but the packet loss is much lower, without interplanetary. So one more result:

	IP1 1-flow TCP up: 49 - 59.5
	IP2 8-flow UDP 48-mbit up: 48 - 36 (loss 0% - 25%)
	IP1 8-flow UDP 48-mbit down: 47.5 - 35.8 (loss 0% - 25%)
	IP2 1-flow TCP down: 21.8 - 61.5

I do see the rates and loss gradually change over 60 seconds, so numbers are shown at t=0 and t=60 seconds.

I’ve read that nuttcp does UDP bulk flows better than iperf3, so one day I may try that.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-01-04 11:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-01 23:04 Pete Heist
2019-01-03  3:57 ` Georgios Amanakis
2019-01-03  4:15   ` Georgios Amanakis
2019-01-03  5:18     ` Jonathan Morton
2019-01-03 10:46       ` Pete Heist
2019-01-03 11:03         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-01-03 13:02           ` Pete Heist
2019-01-03 13:20             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-01-03 16:35               ` Pete Heist
2019-01-03 18:24                 ` Georgios Amanakis
2019-01-03 22:06                 ` Pete Heist
2019-01-04  2:08                   ` Georgios Amanakis
2019-01-04  8:09                     ` Pete Heist
2019-01-04  7:37                   ` Pete Heist
2019-01-04 11:34             ` Pete Heist [this message]
2019-01-15 19:22               ` George Amanakis
2019-01-15 22:42                 ` Georgios Amanakis
2019-01-16  3:34                   ` George Amanakis
2019-01-16  3:47                     ` gamanakis
2019-01-16  7:58                       ` Pete Heist
2019-01-26  7:35                       ` Pete Heist
2019-01-28  1:34                         ` Georgios Amanakis
2019-01-18 10:06                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-01-18 12:07                       ` Georgios Amanakis
2019-01-18 13:33                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-01-18 13:40                           ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-01-18 14:30                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-01-18 13:45                           ` Jonathan Morton
2019-01-18 14:32                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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