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From: Eric Luehrsen <ericluehrsen@hotmail.com>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: "John Yates" <john@yates-sheets.org>,
	"cake@lists.bufferbloat.net" <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	"lede-dev@lists.infradead.org" <lede-dev@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Dave Täht" <dave@taht.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] [LEDE-DEV] Cake SQM killing my DIR-860L - was: [17.01] Kernel: bump to 4.4.51
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 05:00:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DM5PR11MB15644BBFA60A0C7CEA041CF9CC2B0@DM5PR11MB1564.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2D2AE632-75BB-4DDE-B370-0996EFECF14B@gmail.com>

On 03/02/2017 11:35 PM, Jonathan Morton wrote:
>> On 3 Mar, 2017, at 06:31, Eric Luehrsen <ericluehrsen@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Also with SQM you may not what idealized entropy in your queue
>> distribution. It is desired by some to have host-connection fairness,
>> and not so much interest in stream-type fairness. So overlap in a few
>> hash "tags" may not be always such a bad thing depending on how it works
>> itself out.
> That sort of thing is explicitly catered for by the triple-isolate algorithm.  I don’t want to rely on particular hash behaviour to achieve an inferior result.  I’d much rather have a good hash with maximal entropy.
>
>   - Jonathan Morton
That's not what I was going for. Agree, it would not be good to depend 
on an inferior hash. You mentioned divide as a "cost." So I was 
proposing a thought around a "benefit" estimate. If hash collisions are 
not as important (or are they), then what is "benefit / cost?"

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-03  5:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2017-03-02 21:10         ` Dave Täht
2017-03-02 23:16           ` John Yates
2017-03-03  0:00             ` Jonathan Morton
2017-03-02 23:55           ` John Yates
2017-03-03  0:02             ` Jonathan Morton
2017-03-03  4:31               ` Eric Luehrsen
2017-03-03  4:35                 ` Jonathan Morton
2017-03-03  5:00                   ` Eric Luehrsen [this message]
2017-03-03  5:49                     ` Jonathan Morton
2017-03-03  6:21                       ` Dave Taht
2017-03-06 13:30                         ` Benjamin Cronce
2017-03-06 14:44                           ` Jonathan Morton
2017-03-06 18:08                             ` Benjamin Cronce
2017-03-06 18:46                               ` Jonathan Morton

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