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Wed, 18 Apr 2018 18:16:21 +0000 From: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant To: =?utf-8?B?VG9rZSBIw7hpbGFuZC1Kw7hyZ2Vuc2Vu?= CC: =?utf-8?B?Sm9uYXMgTcOlcnRlbnNzb24=?= , Dave Taht , Cake List Subject: Re: [Cake] A few puzzling Cake results Thread-Topic: [Cake] A few puzzling Cake results Thread-Index: AQHT1jB4sTDL6vBhakucJ8y9yVrRPaQE/UMAgAAEFwCAAWIvAIAALrQAgAAE3oCAAAlRAIAAA9iAgAALqYCAAAN0gIAADB6AgAACNwCAABHtAIAAATQAgAABewA= Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 18:16:20 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87vacq419h.fsf@toke.dk> <874lk9533l.fsf@toke.dk> <87604o3get.fsf@toke.dk> <578552B2-5127-451A-AFE8-93AE9BB07368@gmail.com> <87r2nc1taq.fsf@toke.dk> <0BB8B1FD-6A00-49D6-806E-794BD53A449F@gmx.de> <3457DD8E-0292-4802-BD1E-B37771DCADA2@gmail.com> <87fu3s1om2.fsf@toke.dk> <5BD20E12-2408-4393-8560-3FDA52D86DB3@gmail.com> <87vaco8jwp.fsf@toke.dk> In-Reply-To: <87vaco8jwp.fsf@toke.dk> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: toke.dk; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;toke.dk; 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boundary="Apple-Mail=_3BD143F5-3EE2-447A-9FE8-7817764CBE86"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: 6446a1cd-9690-4ef4-735d-08d5a5587cbf X-OriginatorOrg: darbyshire-bryant.me.uk X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 6446a1cd-9690-4ef4-735d-08d5a5587cbf X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 18 Apr 2018 18:16:20.8718 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 9151708b-c553-406f-8e56-694f435154a4 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: VI1PR0702MB3631 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 18:16:24 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_3BD143F5-3EE2-447A-9FE8-7817764CBE86 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 18 Apr 2018, at 19:11, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen = wrote: >=20 > Jonas M=C3=A5rtensson writes: >=20 >> Dave, in the thread referenced earlier that led to this change you = said: >>=20 >> "The loss of throughput here compared to non-ingress mode is a = blocker for >> mainlining and for that matter, wedging this into lede." >>=20 >> I'm curious, what would the latency be in Toke's experiment with >> non-ingress mode and with the 4 MTU change reverted? The same as for >> fq_codel? >=20 > Yeah, I'm planning to run some more tests with and without ingress = mode > and with and without the target scaling. Just need to finish writing = up > the paper on Cake first; there's a deadline looming on Friday=E2=80=A6 I know this can be writted betterrer but I think this is the sort of = thing we=E2=80=99re pondering over? = https://github.com/ldir-EDB0/sch_cake/commit/334ae4308961e51eb6ad0d08450cd= cba558ef4e3 Warning: compiles, not yet actually run in any way whatsoever ;-) Cheers, Kevin D-B 012C ACB2 28C6 C53E 9775 9123 B3A2 389B 9DE2 334A --Apple-Mail=_3BD143F5-3EE2-447A-9FE8-7817764CBE86 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEASyssijGxT6XdZEjs6I4m53iM0oFAlrXi3QACgkQs6I4m53i M0r12g//SBsk79nXMEH0Wit7AFLN2r7311XszjYm+322U7Nvv6AYHlNY4RuvWDfW my2AJIdXZyXABpBnZ/SYPOMlQYFBj3d7+aNOtpPJrcu1O6WFFQlMeDUUjD5u9vvf S+Febw/5B9+YWkR7DA0aavZzuLX+0dNe6g+jucySoPpfuAVtX4JngbTuJr0fGI4K fn956kkqvCJOYFFH/0Hyh4oiPhsIJKylD07ZRzzN7KILL3tO162prmYX6Yr69pIA lrOsLEqpC6SjKI4/M3hr7ZTWhmDaoXyQy+fYA0mbEjPoHlOEvuC/KfOf/z2kXin/ zjNy/GNIkTbJnXAChVkrEW+jIAGFBVoX1OFmlpqk4cOESDcU/gfdT0urUxuA5Uo/ CDePLM9jT7w1Z6P9QdNaSxRzwNQZtlIYahi6mCUWd4wEoXEVc8vwiYEO2pptxzz/ Sm4Wt9ePb2ee565h6LXBsXdDlilcHsVeMPaKsNp/Prlnszbh7+xW8mUoQjPnon8H pT/83+Dr8TUVtR6jyBUUN1hiafxyhXW0/eWoc/MztBXjfVWKbR11L9KM0+xIKwZw BPvsr7bO1Aav62hhMlInT6UNxk8Atd/tKfHz34z5aCX70CZyKXlkv28bnM4a6Ad/ Tu2LNEQ8sbS85WwQaNuwgz0XndcNofk89CUxTH8/RuQ7v9Ym/5c= =+Stu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_3BD143F5-3EE2-447A-9FE8-7817764CBE86--