From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cake] Testing variants of the MTU latency scaling
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 23:31:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <EEAAF733-C445-4264-83E3-DB1B5A3F5589@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FCA166BC-2EB1-4EA1-A9CF-4C4CE5A4D46E@gmail.com>
On 22 April 2018 23:09:54 CEST, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Takeaways (see attached plots):
>>
>> - The MTU scaling does indeed give a nice benefit in egress mode
>> "tcp-download-totals" plot. From just over 6 Mbps to just over 8
>Mbps
>> of goodput on the 10 Mbit link. There is not a large difference
>> between 2MTU and 4MTU, except that 4MTU hurts inter-flow latency
>> somewhat.
>>
>> - The effect for upload flows (where Cake is before the bottleneck;
>> 10mbit-upload.png) is negligible.
>>
>> - The MTU scaling really hurts TCP RTT (intra-flow latency;
>> tcp-upload-tcprtt-10mbit.png and rrul-tcprtt.png).
>>
>> - For bidirectional traffic the combined effect is also negligible.
>>
>>
>> Based on all this, I propose we change the scaling mechanism so that
>it
>> is only active in egress mode, and change it from 4 MTUs to 2. I'll
>> merge Kevin's patch to do this unless someone complains loudly :)
>>
>> If you want me to run other tests, let me know.
>
>I'm not actually sure what you've measured here - unless you've somehow
>managed to swap "ingress" with "egress" mode in a strange manner. I
>don't see any systematic measurement of the different MTU scales in
>ingress mode in your results, which makes your assertion that it should
>only be active in egress mode rather odd.
Ah, that was a typo. I meant that it should only be active in *ingress* mode.
As for the results, as I wrote in my original email, all download flows go through cake in ingress mode (the device running cake is between the client and the bottleneck).
-Toke
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-04-22 21:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-22 20:46 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-22 21:09 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-22 21:31 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2018-04-23 11:23 ` Jonas Mårtensson
2018-04-24 11:45 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24 19:04 ` Jonas Mårtensson
2018-04-24 19:22 ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-04-24 20:27 ` Jonas Mårtensson
2018-04-24 21:11 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-04-23 9:52 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-23 10:13 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-23 10:50 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-24 8:11 ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-04-24 8:14 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-24 8:29 ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
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