From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5AB921F246 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 12:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hms-beagle.home.lan ([87.164.165.7]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M93Jp-1YXn8O48LN-00CUGL for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:18:02 +0200 From: Sebastian Moeller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:18:00 +0200 To: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:kZKpe9xuOsfhmDF3IWsMN9iBec88GzVJm/AK/WJEcB1idMyPRR7 HWawqfLTjkvTbyiQa6o87A/n8RN0xcDdYFmROlqQugLGp3xg5l1VLf3uSCnGMsKwZoT4/tg cQLTixPixATM4fGONxJqNDqDhtIPlOf7x6zwp4PUzlBSIQSNv7n/Up2Av7J1LgJBX6MggTy 651fZiydUM+hKHfKI0HqA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; Subject: [Cake] #17 X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 19:18:34 -0000 Hi list, hi Dave On Sat Apr 11 19:33:59 PDT 2015, Dave That = wrote: 17) the atm compensation in cake is entirely untested. And it is unclear as to how best handle pppoe. Regarding ATM, it seems from = http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/codel/wiki/Cake that there is only = one command line argument =93atm=94 to activate accounting for atm = encapsulation. I venture a guess that this will not be sufficient as it = seems necessary to add the per packet overhead before =93expanding=94 = the packet size to the 43 in 53 atm cells. This might be really just a = documentation issue (I have not looked agh cake=92s code, not that I a) = read C well and b) know where to find the cake code repository). In my = experience the relevant per packet overhead on the ATM link needs to be = measured on each link individually (and repeatedly to catch the ISPs = doing funny things like adding an otherwise invisible vlan tag on the = atm link). PPPoE, is easy, either drill into the packets to get the values used for = hashing, or ask people to activate cake on the pppoe interfaces in the = router (these typically do not show the pppoe headers so that classifier = will find the right values). Or you could argue that a PPPoE link really = is just one flow, and hence does not deserve special treatment ;) (which = other =93multiplexors=94 would deserve the same special treatment = SPDY/HTTP2?). Best Regards Sebastian