From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC2E33B29E for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 14:16:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.44.32] ([80.187.114.4]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MLfH9-1d25hd3nHv-000rWV; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 20:16:07 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 20:16:05 +0200 Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Dendari Marini X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:XiRpOcc6eWfKMEZNzbYM9zUFTej5WpzZ5MmXqCjFf5xqAz0/WWF 1lYOazZcVyE+KCVd7Bus5Pa7bBRbt+3ICdIZGDqYQ10Bo9EN0A037bD0048uqUo+DsnSunl petksIN63gSJMz1fqGaydhow1bUbsAcAcPpHBKuE6mkH1AnYWUDtjoV7IGsXIAF6CEL5e6/ pwWQ4zmrxPnuqGFoCXHUw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:eBVeMrkX7NM=:X3ptYpPrc8rSwzK8m/S3J/ cvSnlurUYtVR9jMNWy+tLhHOVP+hP6Tal6teqp7NW6OGGC/NONq9IV9YJjBgy0jfcUqLw42wQ EO5KngiDPLzwF5AADRXhj6vzTMy81rFb7r9m4VW+ro5N9M+9lN+0qsmokqmKP/DE/OthhDC2l gvz4km8h8VAH2BaCljNVRCAbuoHaaebfCpCHvPaC8uOC4uQQDcAhWBUsD3d5RLVEbnq7Rm/2V x5IWAK35qKN0N+kvAnlWz4X6Wm7fUPWYbdC1hj9/OkAC0ZwUx9wsrzGKSlS0wRCF0IoNuSl7C FnHR74LAo6EP8x7KARBVseqMhHuIomSbvVDmRv+t5Ag8ZzPbZXDtmxkudx2Wjv1iEQfURVsYN 5mgmHjYqz/eoDVI/3dgr+SRaHcoUxuYarOCPVS6JY+VEb7x3prc7dOWLMVlVzRsFXAsW6Sdsa CxPamqoAOsiMHwRAvoovpxNIlT+NaMsdKSRm/QEB2DIniHfsFF1x0iN3lWbXyxSIA+uboSTO8 IlKkGSVF3/Ti7aQ246r3xWEUfGB1zbuvI+vV1H4+GVpcuP7MbAJSUJpNtGvVhQS1lIO7pgS7f V3isz1k22GZss8+8Zw8zcOGpS0wmpu0HEeC09Wk6jZV+cTAlfz/BCj5r9bjrFGSBImeMIPtae MvoQv+udjNBd/FE3WhkIJRNZT1JFcN7EbsFVM33rMB9zHnJo++kJL2ExbrH91Bfl4g8pDwFpP mYJPtOuuhC/oBsmZRF1/GFZ2Iy/EU5xsQD2P/OLKuJjIvrjGNgZjCytnN3QGR2/tdU8Ywly2m zCk7bqHjkk/aaWBrHxJIqZQfQv5WA== Subject: Re: [Cake] Getting Cake to work better with Steam and similar applications X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:16:09 -0000 Hi Dendari, > On Apr 20, 2017, at 17:23, Dendari Marini wrote: >=20 > qdisc cake 8002: dev ifb4eth0 root refcnt 2 bandwidth 16Mbit diffserv3 = dual-dsthost nat ingress rtt 100.0ms raw=20 It seems you are lacking the proper link layer accounting, with an ADSL = line you in all likelihood will need to add the atm keyword for both = directions. I also concur with Jonathan that you shou;d set the correct = overhead parameter, as a first test adding =E2=80=9Catm overhead 48=E2=80=9D= to your cake invocation should help to test this theory. If this helps = you could try to inquire from your ISP which encapsulation is used (or = use https://github.com/moeller0/ATM_overhead_detector to try to = empirically figure out the actual overhead). Best Regards